Speaker 1: 0:10

hey guys, welcome back preview lines podcast okay, it's summer, we know this. We've asked questions. What do y'all want to hear? We have jenny with us because you know let's add it's a party.

Speaker 1: 0:22

It's a party uh-huh, it's's hey, whitney, summer Edition. That's right. All right, whitney, you're on the hot seat Ready, let's do it. Okay, hey, whitney, finding myself struggling with oversimulation. Okay, that's all of us. The hot, constant noise, it seems, in my kids being home off routine. It's getting to me. Did they watch me at swim practice the other day? They did. Did they see me like sweating and like wondering if I was screaming? There was no. Like I could jump from the pool to ground, whitney, but that wouldn't have worked out well. So help me out, help us all out.

Speaker 2: 0:52

So part of it is to realize you're not alone. Okay, your kids being home and being out of routine is going to lead to sensory overload. It just is. And regardless of however old your kids are, I am a big advocate of they have to have a rest time in their rooms doing something quiet. They can be playing, they can be reading. If you want to give them an hour of screen time on a tablet, so be it.

Speaker 1: 1:21

We all do it.

Speaker 2: 1:21

But we all need a chance to kind of decompress, have that quiet time. You need that time for yourself. So, big advocate of make sure you're still incorporating some type of a quiet or a rest time, try not to forget about your tactile grounding. So, whether that means that you're, you know, getting the wet washcloth or paper towel or you know something cold, put it on the back of your neck, put it on your face. If you need to Go outside with your kids, let them, number one, burn off some of that energy that is never ending. But then you're out there barefoot, you know, putting your feet on the grass. All that kind of stuff, you know, do something that is like smell. So candles, lotion, soap, whatever it is. Don't forget your tactile grounding skills and while you're doing that, try to implement your deep breathing.

Speaker 1: 2:13

Yeah, I think what happens to me a lot is loading the kids Like I don't feel like talked about enough and like it's hot, we're okay, we're in Alabama, yeah, it's hot we're okay, we're in alabama, yeah, it's, it's hot, yeah, and especially if you're like out somewhere, yeah, and you're loading them and like you're sweating, they're hot. You're doing the car seat battle. Okay, you get into the front seat.

Speaker 1: 2:35

How it's like a two second vacation when you shut the doors of your kids I mean you're like yelling and you're like oh, and you look like oh that's, just that's me standing in the parking lot for one second, exactly, and then you get back in. Yes, that is a hard like I struggle with that. Yeah, a lot sometimes.

Speaker 2: 2:51

And then because they're like I'm hot, I'm like mommy's hot, it's Alabama. Everybody hot, everybody's suffocating, yeah.

Speaker 1: 2:59

So what should I do better in that moment? Well, remind yourself especially with baby james will comes at you too sometimes like will will be like more of my mental, like terrorist assaulter, like he'll just like come at me and be like mommy. You did that wrong or you should have done it like mommy, you forgot. Mommy, use your kind words, or? Mommy, why are you making that face?

Speaker 3: 3:21

yeah, I'm like I need a moment sir charlie always reminds me mommy forgot to take your three deep breaths, because that's what we tell him before you react Uh-huh, take some deep breaths and he's like I think you forgot your deep breaths and you're just like Mommy forgot. You're right, let's take them together, uh-huh.

Speaker 2: 3:35

Mm-hmm. So remind yourself, the car seat battle is probably long from over. Yeah, so try to mentally prep before you get there. But once you're in the car, if you still need that time to kind of cool off, open the windows. Yeah, tactile grounding.

Speaker 1: 3:54

Let that air blow.

Speaker 2: 3:55

Yes, let the air in the sound. Sometimes the sound of the windows opening drowns out the kids. You know, multi-purpose here, yeah, what about?

Speaker 3: 4:01

ring pops. Is that tactile yeah? What about ring pops. Is that tactile?

Speaker 1: 4:05

Yeah, because we've been buying them in bulk.

Speaker 3: 4:07

Yeah, everyone gets one.

Speaker 2: 4:08

It keeps their mouth closed for a minute. Well, sour candy too. It's kind of a shock to your central nervous system.

Speaker 1: 4:14

Look at you, big brown man. You don't even know it, I know.

Speaker 3: 4:19

That's why our road trips have been better, our ring pops are the secret to it.

Speaker 2: 4:23

That's right. Jenny has unlocked jenny's.

Speaker 1: 4:25

Let us know that bulk on amazon bring pops would like to sponsor the podcast let us know we're good with it okay. So you're not alone. We're all having those moments and I will say I'm worse when I'm hurrying out the door. So that's, that's a sarah thing.

Speaker 2: 4:40

I like that's an enneagram, one type a where we don't like to be late.

Speaker 1: 4:44

I don't like to be late. And then I do this thing with nap time. I don't want to all do this where I try to use the most I can have my nap time in that last like two or three minutes or whatever I know and then I feel like I could just be Tasmanian devil and get it all done. It's like a challenge I put on myself and I make myself worse. Yeah, so I need to personally work on that. It's self-admitting, but is that a thing? Are you going to tell me something about myself? Okay, tell me.

Speaker 2: 5:13

That's kind of an ADHD thing, yeah, where people with ADHD work great under pressure, yeah, and so they will put something off or procrastinate it into the last minute and then boom, they thrive under that pressure.

Speaker 1: 5:28

I can tell by her look, yeah, I thrive under that pressure. I can tell by her.

Speaker 2: 5:29

look, yeah, I was like do you want me?

Speaker 1: 5:30

to say something the therapist is like and I'm like what is it? Tell me, why do I do this? It always takes a minute for me to process it. We'll talk about this later.

Speaker 2: 5:39

You're like to be continued.

Speaker 1: 5:41

Good to know. Okay, hey, whitney, my son just turned one. Our birth was traumatic. Traumatic to say the least I found myself feeling off around. His birthday is this a thing?

Speaker 2: 5:52

well, of course it is. It's a trauma trigger because you know obviously your life and your baby's life was at stake yeah potentially he had a nikki stay.

Speaker 2: 6:04

You know we can say that, and so when his birthday rolls around, you're reminded of that trauma. You might even have kind of some flashbacks back to the you know labor and delivery room, back to the OR back to the NICU. All of those things are going to be kind of running through your head. And if there was a NICU stay, or if you know, say you were on magnesium and so you were kind of out of it for a little while and unable to hold him, you're grieving what you lost.

Speaker 2: 6:32

Yeah, because you may not have gotten that golden hour of skin to skin, and so you're grieving that, and so it's very appropriate that you feel like his birthday is almost harder than it is celebratory.

Speaker 3: 6:48

I mean, it's the anniversary of your trauma. Yeah, exactly, You've been that.

Speaker 1: 6:51

Jenny's walked that road. I've walked that road Still to this day. I get weird around, honestly, both boys' birthdays and now my family's kind of recognized it, yeah, I recognize it, and it just was not. It was not a happy day, yeah, for me, and I'll be real driving past the hospital sometimes I'm just like I don't want to see it um so the birthday, and I think you sometimes overcompensate or I did for the first birthday, for will I did this grand party to try to not think about it then post party.

Speaker 1: 7:25

I was like wow, okay, that is still really not okay. Yeah, like the balloons didn't make it better, exactly, I thought it did right. I would like I put an elephant on the cake. Why wouldn't that? Solve my problem exactly but no one ever said to me if you had a traumatic birth, sarah, the birthdays would be hard. So if this mom, if you're hearing that for the first time you're validated validated I would suggest therapy. Yes.

Speaker 3: 7:50

Something that a therapist told me, and we have the therapist in the room that can speak to this. But just on that day, start the day and give yourself five 10 minutes, however long you need to dwell on what happened to really think about it, because, if not, you're going to keep having those flashbacks all day. So allow yourself to sit with that discomfort. Think about the things, give yourself grace, you know. Sit with it for a minute and then like okay, like, I have honored my feelings I have sat with it.

Speaker 3: 8:16

I have not dealt with it per se, but I have let it make space for it and then it just helped me to like okay, I can go and enjoy the good parts of this day. Now, Exactly I love that so that was helpful for me. I was like I love that, that I don't have to keep trying to push it away.

Speaker 1: 8:32

I can just sit with it. For this time. You're allowed to feel your feels, and then you needed that permission?

Speaker 2: 8:37

Yes, absolutely.

Speaker 1: 8:41

And it's just like you just don't feel like you have that permission. That's right, but sometimes I find myself being like I wanted to talk about it to someone. But then I was like maybe they're tired of hearing it.

Speaker 2: 8:51

Well, this could be a good time setting a timer and voice journaling, yes.

Speaker 1: 8:54

Yeah, so I think really too, especially you know, the aftermath of trauma. Trauma is tricky, trauma is like grief. Yeah, it pops up, it's very sneaky. It's very sneaky. So to this mom it's very validated. Unfortunately, it's a normal experience and you know too, sometimes I like to travel around the birthday, just even like a small little trip. It kind of gives me something out of like the location, because we live where the traumas happened.

Speaker 1: 9:23

To me that's one thing. So find your ways, Find your. Like we said before in different episodes, you're going to find your core, huddle people that you can share with.

Speaker 3: 9:31

We literally just talked about grief and joy can coexist.

Speaker 1: 9:34

Coexist. It doesn't have to be all bad or all good.

Speaker 3: 9:36

No, you can feel conflicting emotions Totally.

Speaker 1: 9:39

Oh, okay, I like these Family stuff. Whitney, here we go, let's do it. Aunt Brenda, hey, whitney, we have several large family gatherings, vacations coming up, it's summer, everybody's trying to see everybody School's out. I am not ready for the questions about us getting pregnant. We've had several miscarriages and currently do IVF. I just hate the pressure.

Speaker 2: 10:00

Okay, for starters, if we have just any, let's say support people listening to this. For the love of God, don't ask people when they're going to have a baby or when the next one is Exactly I'm surprised you haven't had another one yet.

Speaker 1: 10:15

You're not getting any younger Somebody asked me when the third one was, when I was leaving the hospital with baby James. I am not even kidding. What are you going to do for the third? I'm like, okay. Well, I guess when you get the uterus that was taken on my body back in it's like ma'am, go get the biohazard bag.

Speaker 2: 10:30

And she's looked at me. I'm like that is inappropriate. Yeah, recently, you know, I had COVID and I had sent a picture of the COVID test to my friends and they're like you're pregnant. And I was like did you forget? My tubes are in a biohazard bag and probably like gone. At this point, because it's been nearly three years, I mean no, it's wild. I'm like no, I caught the plague, not a pregnancy.

Speaker 1: 10:52

Well, I tell you, I remember this happening, Conversations about when you get pregnant, when we were engaged I remember as soon as we were married, you know literally questions. And then when I had the miscarriage, everybody just thought a lot of people didn't know we had the first miscarriage. When are you trying? When are you trying? Oh my gosh, I would cry almost every single time.

Speaker 2: 11:16

And then in the South a lot. People feel very entitled to that information.

Speaker 1: 11:22

And they just keep asking and I get this. I remember post-miscarriage not going to a holiday because I couldn't stand to ask the question. I could not.

Speaker 2: 11:31

And I did not go.

Speaker 1: 11:33

And I said I cannot do this. So I feel for this mom and for her.

Speaker 3: 11:37

I think a lot of times it comes from maybe an innocent place. People don't realize how hurtful it can be. They're not trying to be malicious. Like I can remember, the dental hygienist asked me don't you want more? Are you going to have more? As I'm like actively miscarrying and I'm just like it took everything not to just ball while I'm getting my teeth cleaned, so I totally just feel for this mom.

Speaker 2: 11:59

And so for this mom, for ways to cope with it. You know, if it's one of those you're able to get away, please do that, you know, even if that means like oh, I got to go run to the store and you drive and you take that time for yourself to emotionally decompress. Do that. Some really good advice is if it's your side of the family, have that conversation with them. If it's your significant other, they need to have that conversation with their family.

Speaker 1: 12:24

I get the sense from this. It might be his family, but I could wrong.

Speaker 2: 12:27

I'm just like and so you know, if it's one of those depending on how strong the relationship is to have that conversation of hey, we're going through IVF, we've experienced miscarriages. Please, no one ask us about this. This is not a good topic for us to have you know if, if or when we get pregnant. We will tell you when we are ready In our time.

Speaker 2: 12:48

But please do not ask us. And so setting up those boundaries even before you get there can be helpful and it can protect you, and then also knowing that you can get your out when you need your out.

Speaker 1: 13:00

Yeah, I mean I'm going to go get a drink. Oh, I need to go use the restroom. I mean I was also sassy at times. You know Right, and just like well, when I could, you know, when are you gonna have the baby?

Speaker 1: 13:10

well, when God gives me the baby you know, or like appropriate to just say like I'm just not comfortable having a totally, yeah, totally and you know I was just like, if you're gonna ask me such an invasive question, if I offend you, maybe you should be looking while you're asking me an invasive question here like it was it was a hard time.

Speaker 1: 13:27

And still people ask me and I'm just like, yeah, we're done. And then people, if you say you're done, for whatever reason you're done, they feel like you gotta say, oh, don't you want like I get? Don't you want the girl? Yeah, and I part of me goes well, I had the girl, but I lost the girl. Yeah, and the other part of me is just like I'm very happy with the boys and I, depending on my mood and day, that's the response you're going to get. But it's like when you're asking, you don't know how many children we have lost Exactly and you're never going to know that.

Speaker 2: 13:55

Or the lengths that we went to to get the children that we have, yes, and that at some point, like for me personally, I was like I'm quit, I'm going to quit.

Speaker 1: 14:06

And we could try. There's women out there who try and try and try to get pregnant and it does not happen that way for them. So I think hopefully we're getting better in society and the more you can just say, I think the awareness is getting better. I'm not comfortable. You change the subject. You had the uncomfortable conversation. I don't want to speak about this before it happens.

Speaker 2: 14:26

Yeah. That's our advice, but just know it happens to all of us, and we've walked that road.

Speaker 1: 14:32

It's hard, it's hard and you know, somebody always needs to get ice at parties, someone always needs to go get grandma a new drink. Take those outs. Yes, there's nothing wrong with it yeah and you know I always like to before situations where I feel like I'm gonna be pressured. I like power walk, I do my workout. Yeah, I like get my good head space. Yeah, like fill your cup a little bit more that day.

Speaker 1: 14:55

Mm-hmm and give yourself grace, absolutely. Oh, okay, changing topics. Hey, whitney, I see everyone taking these awesome trips, our mom's planning these perfect crafts and honestly, it makes me feel like crap. I'm right there with you.

Speaker 2: 15:12

I know social media is made for this, but if I'm the only one who's feeling like it, no, I'm right there with you. I am not a Pinterest crafty mom yeah, I would love to be. I am not. I have tried and failed. So, no, you are not alone at all in your courage. Social media is designed for us to fall into the comparison trap. Yep, it really is. And so, with that, maybe you need to take a break from social media.

Speaker 1: 15:32

Yeah.

Speaker 2: 15:33

Or put a tight reel. Exactly it is. It is a highlight reel. People put their happy times on there.

Speaker 3: 15:39

Or maybe they're not happy. They're just posed to look happy.

Speaker 2: 15:41

Exactly. Oh my gosh, it's two seconds of happy for the picture.

Speaker 1: 15:45

This is so bad is for a second that there is sometimes in these posts when people put these extreme decorations of their happiness are perfect.

Speaker 3: 15:54

I'm like oh, you're just telling me how bad it really is in life or like we were talking about the, the moms who say they do it all. I'm like looking at your five children and you're like making homemade butter that you're churning and you say you have no help.

Speaker 1: 16:06

I don't believe you, I'm sorry, I'm not buying I'm thinking there's a sister wife there that I would consider exactly consider that's amazing. Let's let's talk about clean as long as she didn't love bill, I'd be fine, and there you go.

Speaker 1: 16:17

You know exactly just give me like a good helper. But exactly exactly. I think you know. So listen, everybody. You don't know too. I always had to reframe this. She's taking a trip. You don't know how long that mom has been saving for that trip. You don't know how that trip's happened. You don't know the effort she's done. You don't know if her kid was a terror that night before. She's had the worst trip of her life. But she's just like I did this trip. Let's just post it.

Speaker 1: 16:45

And you know every mom's got their own specialty of life.

Speaker 2: 16:48

We all do an exit job a different way, exactly.

Speaker 1: 16:52

So you're not the only one who and sometimes summer is hard because our kids are home. Yeah, and like we're trying our best to keep them active and engaged.

Speaker 2: 17:00

Yes, yes, it's hard and that looks like different for everybody.

Speaker 1: 17:02

Yeah, but take that guilt off and like pregnant I couldn't be on social media because I thought everybody was pregnant, yeah, so sometimes if you're just struggling with, like, your confidence and your comparison is really speaking to you, yeah, don't look at it.

Speaker 2: 17:17

Yeah, might be a time for a break from social media or at least to put like the screen time limit on there. Yeah, so maybe like 10 or 15 minutes a day, because it's a lot easier to look out and say everybody else is doing.

Speaker 1: 17:28

better the out and say everybody else is doing better. The grass is great on the other side but it's like if you sit with your own. Yeah, that's where it's at. Yeah, but you know I did it too. I remember if will was little. I feel like she's taking this kid here. She's doing this to the library. Look at her. She's done that. I haven't showered today. How is she doing this? She has five kids.

Speaker 2: 17:46

She's driving back for target I'm like I hate to Sometimes kids start to raise the younger kids.

Speaker 3: 17:51

Yeah.

Speaker 2: 17:53

They do entertain each other pretty well. Yeah.

Speaker 1: 17:55

So I mean I did it, you know. So I think we all do it, but just know that we're all living this life together.

Speaker 2: 18:03

That's right.

Speaker 1: 18:04

Literally. I relate to our reels. We all post on Instagram.

Speaker 2: 18:07

Yeah, nobody has it all together.

Speaker 1: 18:09

Come on, if you would have looked on the opposite side of what I'm showing, y'all see a whole different version, and that's a snapshot of our day. Oh yeah, two seconds, and honestly, it's probably pre-recorded in a quiet time when we're children, yeah, okay. So do not feel this way. You're, you're not alone and let's mom yes. I would All right. Last question hey, whitney, I love these summer questions because they're just like our life here.

Speaker 1: 18:32

We just came back from the recent trip and I feel like all my husband and I did was fight or break up fights with our kids. Let's talk this out so I don't feel like I'm the only one.

Speaker 2: 18:41

I'd say this is par for the course. Yeah, let's normalize this. Yeah, because especially if you have younger kids. So, like I've said before, I have a two and a half, almost three year old and a six year old, and the two year old thinks that everything is hers. And God forbid her sister actually pick up one of her own toys because then the two year old wants it. So it's this constant battle of note that is hers, she had it first.

Speaker 2: 19:05

You don't just take things from other people, right, we have to share. If you can't share, share, I'm putting the toy away. We are referees all the time. All the time, especially when they are in that younger, like toddler to elementary school age, we're constantly going to be refereeing, yeah, and then we're already kind of flustered and frazzled from that so y'all do one thing off to each other, then it's just like so then you know, my husband might I don know like tie his shoe wrong and it just grates my nerves and then I, you know, get upset over that, and so it's like one thing starts another.

Speaker 2: 19:39

It's a domino effect, yeah. And so you're not alone in this, I would tell you, as far as like trips and stuff like that, anticipate cranky, yeah.

Speaker 1: 19:49

Anticipate the crankiness. Expectations need to be low.

Speaker 2: 19:51

Oh, yes, Below the ground For yourself, your kids your spouse, different environments different centuries.

Speaker 1: 19:58

You know, even it goes back to like the toddlers right, they're all trying to kill themselves. So we have safety guards in our homes right. Like in our day-to-day life, we know where the stairs are. We know where the scissors are we put this away, they have their cribs or they have their bed rails, right, we go to a foreign environment. We've lost that control of just normal safety. So, like you, could, you know, cook for two seconds without your kid killing himself?

Speaker 2: 20:21

now that's removed exactly. So it's harder and honestly, you know our kids, they're going to struggle being in a new environment because it's new, it's exciting. And so they're going to struggle being in a new environment because it's new, it's exciting. And so they're going to be a little bit more hyper with that. And here we are thinking dear God, I'm exhausted, how do you have more energy, kind of thing.

Speaker 1: 20:42

So we're dealing with polar opposites in that aspect too, and it's a mental low getting ready for trips.

Speaker 2: 20:45

It is.

Speaker 1: 20:45

It's a lot, so you're already coming into it. Like I always tell people like when you give birth, you're at coming into it. Like I always tell people, like when you give birth, you're at a deficit, right, because you've probably not been sleeping well when your last week's a pregnancy, and like you're trying to get everything together and then you have this baby. Same thing with trips Like we're planning, we're running around. You know why does mom always run back out of the car?

Speaker 2: 21:02

Because we're like we forget. We're the only part.

Speaker 1: 21:14

We got to grab that into a trip, yeah, and then say you have family involved, you have friends, who likes to go vacation together? People parent different, people do things different. Um, but definitely you and your spouse gotta realize a vacation with your children is not a vacation, it's a trip, and you're parenting in a different location a thousand percent.

Speaker 2: 21:29

yes, so whit yes.

Speaker 1: 21:29

So, whitney, it was so funny, we all went on vacation the same time. Yes, whitney had a true vacation. Yes, okay, me and Jenny took our children. Yes, so we parented in a different location yes. So did you have mom guilt, though, when you were away?

Speaker 2: 21:43

Oh yes. Oh yeah, you know, talk about like tears on the plane, cause it was for a long time, yeah, and then it got extended because I got covid while we were out there. So then my parents ended up having to keep my kids for a few more days until I was negative.

Speaker 1: 21:59

So then you have mom guilt because you have covid because then you and your head are like if I would have went away, then we got home and I was like we're home right, and my kids are like yeah I wanted nothing more than to have my kids back.

Speaker 2: 22:12

Yeah, yeah, totally yeah. Now we're all united and you know we're back in the routine and it's great, but yeah the vacations are hard, so just they are.

Speaker 1: 22:21

You know, again, highlight reel. People are gonna show. I showed the highlight reels. I didn't show you all the bad stuff on my instagram stories.

Speaker 2: 22:28

When we were melting down I told jenny was on vacation to live the same life, Jenny yeah, we're not surviving today. Well, the people that were in my like green circle, my close friends on my Instagram story they knew I had caught COVID. I was like go on vacation, get COVID, it's great.

Speaker 1: 22:43

So I mean, I think it's just expectations and as your kids get older it's going to get a different vibe, but the trenches right now set them low so we listen to us.

Speaker 3: 22:56

Have you seen this book? It's written by a therapist. Um, we listen to that on audible on our way to the beach and all the way back, because it's really long and we don't listen to it the whole time but. I feel like that was good, just to check in, okay, to be like okay, is everything coming out of my mouth, respectful it doesn't have to be you know I don't have to be happy with you all the time, but we do. Words leave my mouth. Need to be respectful.

Speaker 1: 23:19

Yeah, whether.

Speaker 3: 23:20

I'm talking about someone or to someone? Yeah, that was just something he said in the book.

Speaker 1: 23:24

And so it's things like that.

Speaker 3: 23:25

That was very helpful. I feel like that was convicting, like it was fresh on our mind. Yeah, so maybe find a good podcast or a good book while you're traveling.

Speaker 1: 23:34

And that's a safe space, right Like you can listen to someone third party saying it Like nudge.

Speaker 2: 23:39

I mean, I was going to say, did you?

Speaker 1: 23:41

just like across and just be like did you hear that?

Speaker 2: 23:44

Are you listening?

Speaker 1: 23:45

Yeah, Communication, you know I always do that, sometimes in church. I'm just like oh, did you hear?

Speaker 3: 23:51

that. I know. I heard a pastor one time. That's like you have to listen to sermons for yourself. You cannot be thinking like this was written for you.

Speaker 1: 23:56

You know you're hitting all, but I think that's the thing, you know a good check-in before a trip? Oh, absolutely.

Speaker 2: 24:01

And going to a trip, and you know.

Speaker 1: 24:04

I always say I know my parents went with us so we got a date night or two in there. Great, Check it. You can put the kids down, you can order takeout.

Speaker 2: 24:15

You can have their baby monitored. You can sit on the balcony.

Speaker 1: 24:18

Have yourself a little wine and a milk, check out and just do that check-in. I'm sorry I lost my temper with you when you know the swim diaper. They had a situation in the floaties and we were all hot, sam was in all places.

Speaker 2: 24:33

Is that the poop in the tub?

Speaker 1: 24:34

situation again. It's similar but not as triggering. And you know, it's amazing too on trips what you can find the other person doing wrong, Right, it's amazing.

Speaker 2: 24:44

We have a heightened sensitivity, or radar, for it. Well, and that's what Matthew?

Speaker 3: 24:48

pointed out graciously. He's like just because I do something differently than you would do it, it doesn't necessarily make it wrong yeah.

Speaker 2: 24:56

And.

Speaker 3: 24:56

I'm like that's true, it really is. It is it's true, but it's hard when you're used to doing all the things. You're like that's not the way we do it Exactly.

Speaker 2: 25:04

Yeah, it's not wrong. We got to relinquish a little bit of that control Like you dusted the sand off them wrong.

Speaker 1: 25:10

You know it's like did I really do it wrong? Exactly no but you're looking at it going.

Speaker 2: 25:15

Why are you doing that? That's not the most efficient way, right as.

Speaker 1: 25:19

Enneagram ones over here, 100%. So I think, just knowing everything's heightened.

Speaker 2: 25:25

It is for us all.

Speaker 1: 25:26

But this summer questions. They were so good. I love them. I hope you guys one of these have touched on a topic in your life. Keep sending us more and we'll answer them.

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