Speaker 1: 0:10

Hey guys, welcome back to Preview Alliance podcast. This is Sarah. We have our sleep girl, our go-to, yannati. We are ready for you guys to take sleep into the next level. So we have pulled our Preview Moms. We're like, what do you want to hear? And now we want to talk about the older kids. So we have conquered newborns, we've done our little toddlers. Now we're talking about, okay, what happens once they're one, and on Even. We can even touch on, like what's happening when we're transitioning. So tune in. This is going to be great, yanadi. Welcome. Hi, sarah. Thank you for having me today.

Speaker 1: 0:47

You know they keep on. I keep on saying, hey guys, what do you want to listen to from Yanadi, what do you want to hear? And they keep on giving the good stuff. So we're ready.

Speaker 2: 0:56

Yeah, let's take a dive into today's topic.

Speaker 1: 0:59

Okay. So this one, I know it's bringing me back. I'm having like a little bit anxiety even going back in my head. Transitioning to the toddler bed.

Speaker 2: 1:09

Yeah, so the toddler bed. It's a huge transition, right? So for the longest time, your baby has been confined in this small space which is the crib right, and all of a sudden, they have full access to this huge room of theirs, which probably has a lot of distractions, right, like toys and their dresser, where they can easily grab clothes from their library of books. Whatever it has they have access to now it has they have access to now, right? So the first thing we want to do is make sure that their room is safe. Basically, consider it like a huge crib right.

Speaker 2: 1:53

So whatever furniture heavy furniture that is present in the room, you want to make sure that it's anchored to the wall safely. And then you want to also remove any distractions. So, for example, if you have like a bucket of toys right or like a bookshelf containing books, I want you to remove them as best as you can, because we don't want to have your child, when they wake up at two, three, four in the morning, to let me go grab a toy, let me play with this at a time, or let me go read a book.

Speaker 2: 2:29

Right? We don't want any of that. We want them to just go back to sleep. So for that to happen, you need to eliminate all of the distractions. Now, I'm not saying like you have to remove it a hundred percent, like you can totally have some like shelving that's high, where they can't climb and get hurt and pull down, things like that, so you can have some shelving that contains a few books or some, you know, knickknacks or toys, or keep the closet locked right when they can't easily access it and keep like a bucket of toys in there so you can easily bring it out when you need to keep them busy. So that's the first thing is to make it safe. Second thing is remove the distractions and then the third thing is get them involved in picking out stuff for their new big kid bed right, like pull up your laptop, pull up a website that sells toddler beds, toddler bed sheets, things like that, and get them involved. Like which one do you like? Shall we get the Spider-Man one or the Batman one, or should we get rainbows or unicorns right For their bed sheets? Have them pick out like a color for their bed frame or something like that.

Speaker 2: 3:46

If you're just transitioning the crib to a toddler bed situation, that makes it a whole lot easier. All you need to do is remove that side railing from that crib and everything else stays the same, right? I would probably still maybe incorporate some kind of decision-making in the process, though. Allow them to pick out the sheets, and you should get them new sheets, right? It's a big kid bed for a reason, so let them get that decision-making power. Give them choices, but don't give too many choices. Give them two, just like how I said Batman or Spider-Man right. Give them two choices, no more than that. Batman or Spider-Man, right? Right, give them a few choices, no more than that.

Speaker 1: 4:25

Now, if someone's saying, okay, that's great. I am having anxiety of this. How do we even know if it's right time? When would you say this is the appropriate time to transition? Because I feel like people are on different camps Some people go so early, some people go so late, and no one really knows which way to go.

Speaker 2: 4:44

Yeah, so I have definitely had clients where an 11 month old was on a floor bed and I've had clients where a three and a half year old was still in a crib, right. So there is a big range and it's very personal, right, it's very personal, I would probably say, developmentally. Your baby is not ready to be in an open space like that until they're closer to three and maybe two and a half. If your baby is on the larger growth scale, right. So if they're really tall for their age or really big and they're climbing out and safety is an issue, then you could transition them a little bit sooner. But I would wait until about two, two and a half, and then by three, you can definitely start working towards that big kid bed.

Speaker 1: 5:35

Love that. What about? Let's go to the fear, right? The fear is like okay, you know we're going to transition. I remember this, like yesterday I transitioned Will. I was glued to that camera and I was like he's going to get out, he's going to run around. I have heard stories of my friend's kids. They have found them in the fridge at 3am. I've heard stories of just like oh yeah, my kid was running wild up and down the stairs and I thought there was a ghost, but it was actually my child. Or you know that they are like you're laying in bed and they reappear next to you and it like scares you half to death. Yeah, so the mom who's hearing this and going okay, that all sounds great. You don't know my kid. What do I do in that? What? So let's say we've transitioned. It's not going well. What do you suggest?

Speaker 2: 6:20

Yeah, so in those early days and weeks, sometimes even months, as your baby is getting used to it, as you're able to let them know, like no, for safety reasons you have to stay in the room until mommy and daddy come and get you. Or if you have cameras where you know they can talk to you, then if it's an emergency, if you really really need us, let us know in the camera. We're listening, we can help you. If you need some water, let us know, but really do your best not to get out of the room Now until that understanding again, it's developmental, right. A 12 month old is not going to understand that. That's why it's important to make that transition when your child is ready developmentally to understand you and to stay in the room. Right, so if your child is still having a hard time, or until they get to that point, there are like door covers, like doorknob covers.

Speaker 2: 7:28

Target sells them. I have them from that but you can put that on the inside of the door. But you can put that on the inside of the door so it's harder for them to open the door, but you can easily go in and you're not locking them in, right, right, it's not like they're locked in, they can definitely get out. It just makes it a little bit harder to get out and by the time they're like figuring it out, you're like already trying to go in the door, like, ok, what do you need? I hear you trying to get out, right, so you could definitely use some kind of device to help make it a little bit harder for them to leave the room. I've also had some parents put a gate at the door, which ideally I don't like too much. But you can definitely do that as an option if it works for your family. If you're like nope, I don't want to do the whole doorknob cover situation, so either one of those options is okay, just safety and I think that is just a good point.

Speaker 1: 8:23

It's just you have I mean, you're going to be sleeping, you know, and you just don't want that where you wake up and you don't see your child in their room and like it goes back to the furniture, because then it's like you know you've made that safe space in their room you should from, but do we all sometimes have things in our house that are not fully secured? Yes, you know, we try to be diligent about it, so it's just maintaining their safety environment. It goes back to it until kids learn boundaries and they just don't. So that's wonderful points there.

Speaker 2: 8:54

Yeah, if you live in a two-story home and you're on the top level and you give your child full access to their room, you also want to put a gate at the top of the staircase as another safety precaution, in case you already have one.

Speaker 1: 9:12

I mean, we had that in Will's five and James's two, but in our old house, james started falling down the stairs, I mean, and it was. It was just so traumatic. So it's like, if we can and we have gates and it was one of those things he figured out the gate, you know, and then we have to upgrade our locks, it's just this.

Speaker 2: 9:29

Yeah, keep you on your toes, Our children are really resilient and resilient yeah, they'll figure out anything.

Speaker 1: 9:37

That's what I'm like. I'm like we don't need FBI, we just need my kids to try to get something from it and we'll figure that out.

Speaker 1: 9:44

Ok, the next one is about night wakings. So this mom wrote in and she said my nine month old has started waking up frequently during the night. What strategies can we help them to go back to sleeping consistently through the night? So this is kind of telling me. You know, something may be situational, or maybe she kind of got lucky and never did anything, or maybe she kind of got lucky and never did anything, and now we're seeing some signs.

Speaker 2: 10:09

Yeah, so there is a regression that happens between the eight to 10 month point. So I'm assuming if you already have an independent sleeper and naps and nights were good before this time, then it's probably related to the regression. If you didn't sleep train or don't have an independent sleeper there are some dependent sleep associations present then it may be an indication that it's time to just work on fading those out and getting to the point of practicing some independence there and that will really help with night sleep. Third thing is to look out for is your baby on two naps and maybe keep an eye on how much daytime sleep they're getting, and at nine months you want to aim for about three hours-ish. So if your baby is getting a little bit over that, then maybe you need a little bit longer of an awake window before bedtime and maybe just reducing or capping those two naps as needed.

Speaker 1: 11:11

Love that and you mentioned this. I'm going to bring in this question. Somebody wrote in about transitioning from their one and a half year old from needing a bottle to fall asleep. So like we're going back to those sleep associations you've talked about and like you know, I've heard of everything. Like you know, I have to lay with my child for a good hour, pat their back to. They have to have warm milk. This temperature, you know whatever is. You know all these things, that there was this meme on Instagram the other day. It's like I always think my kid's not difficult or not have maintenance and I'm giving a report to the babysitter. Like you know, the string cheese with this this way and hold it this way and then you put on these. You know, everybody does their own thing. We get these little habits, but it's like how do we break that there?

Speaker 2: 11:55

Yeah, so ideally for a year and a half you know they shouldn't be getting any milk overnight before bedtime you could give a bottle of milk and then maybe give it with dinner or right after dinner or the first part of your routine, and then that alone will really help break that association. And if that doesn't help and you need to still give them a little bit of milk to get them to sleep, you can totally do that and then slowly decrease it or add more water and then decrease the milk and then maybe just end up giving a hundred percent water, and then you can leave a water bottle in their crib all night, totally.

Speaker 1: 12:36

What about, like, say, back another sleep association? What's if it's laying with the child, or what's if it's padding?

Speaker 2: 12:42

Yeah. So any kind of sleep association, especially for the strong ones that have lasted you well over a year, I would probably use a more of a faded approach. So you gradually faded out. So if you're sitting and laying down with your baby, patting them for an hour, that's a long time you have a lot of patience.

Speaker 2: 13:06

Yeah, more so than me. Yeah, exactly More than me. That's what I was going to say. So if you're laying down doing that for an hour, decrease it by five to 10 minutes at a time, gradually. It'll take you a week or so to slowly decrease it. And then, if you have another caretaker, if it's predominantly you doing this and then you have another caretaker that can take over, I would probably get them involved as well, just to give your child the understanding that, hey, it's not always mommy who does this, it could be daddy or another person.

Speaker 1: 13:39

I think that relays to another great question someone said is just they're looking for more help with a wind down kind of routine for their one-year-old, for more restful. I mean, I'm guilty of it too. Coming in on all fours hot wheels. You're like the older kids had something. You're trying to get them bathed, fed down. Sometimes the youngest kids get to go with the schedule of their siblings or just life happens you have a long day at work and so I get. What this mom's trying to say is like that's their time. They're trying to make it peaceful. What's some tips for, just for us who were trying to make it?

Speaker 2: 14:14

Yeah, so I totally understand, like busy schedules, daycare, preschool, pickups like you know, those two hours between five and seven are the most chaotic, and a lot of households, so I get it. So you really want to, once you have the kids down for dinner which I would probably start dinner around five to six six being the latest, especially with a one-year-old and then giving them some time after dinner to burn off any extra energy. Like get the wiggles out. That's what I like to say. Like if you can't get outside, then do something indoors. So I have, like this standalone trampoline that my son usually just jumps on, Like okay, we have one too, we love it. Go get on the trampoline, go get your wiggles out. Or you know it's too hot outside because we live in the South, so you can't go outside right now. We're a hundred right now yeah.

Speaker 2: 15:10

You know, do a dance party. Dance parties are really good to turn on some music kids bop you know that's great for a one-year-old. You can probably do Cocoa, melon or Baby Shark or something like that. Dance parties are really good. Getting out the wiggles doing like tag If you have older kiddos that need to get out the wiggles, doing like tag if you have older kiddos that need to get out the wiggles just doing something like that.

Speaker 2: 15:30

And then, once you do that, post dinner I would probably start winding down. So no tv, no electronics, no ipads, maybe playing some soothing, relaxing music like kind of like a jazz, kind of a tone, right, even meditation music, like guided meditations you can have going on in the background. I also like doing yoga before bedtime. Cosmic yoga is like my go to Love it, love it. Yes, they have like a bedtime yoga series too that you can do.

Speaker 2: 16:02

So that's really good as well to help, not for a, a one-year-old that we're talking about, but for you know, in general. So we can, you can do something like that. And then, once that's done, once you're in the process of winding down, then you want to create a routine for about 30 to 40 minutes, right, take them into their bedroom, your bathroom, like my kids bathe in my bathroom, so I take them to my bathroom, it wherever you're starting the routine right and then in that you can start including, like dimming lights, so like, install a dimmer switch if you don't already have one. That really helps set the tone. Like, okay, nighttime is approaching, start closing the lights around the rooms in the hallway. Start closing the blinds, the curtains, all of that stuff during the routine to really help block in the hallway. Start closing the blinds, the curtains, all of that stuff during the routine to really help block out the sunlight, because it's still sunlight when it's their best night, right.

Speaker 2: 16:55

So we want to try to block that out so they're not like oh it's still light outside, mommy, nope, it's dark in the house.

Speaker 1: 17:04

You're going to sleep. I've heard that, mommy, it's not night-night. Look at the sky and I'm like, oh, but the sky's going night-night too. It's just the older they get, the more questioning. So then you have to be more creative with your responses. I love that, I love. I actually find myself doing that. For me is turning those, you know, just kind of signaling your body, body and the no electronics. Even for us, I think that's huge. We're all guilty of the Instagram scroll at night and that is not great for us, clearly, but I love those. I think that's all great. Now let's move on to. I remember this specifically.

Speaker 1: 17:37

Will experienced this a night terror or nightmare. This is a great question we haven't touched on before because our kids haven't. They were babies, we didn't really, they couldn't say, hey, mom, you know. So, will's night terror. I'll never forget this. I was pregnant with baby James. We were in an apartment. We had got a watermelon at the store Okay, put it on the counter. He woke up 3 am screaming that a watermelon was after him. Terrified, just like a true terror, I got him, got him in the living room and I was like and he was not in reality, he was not with me. I kept on just saying you're okay, buddy Mommy's here and he finally came to, but there's a solid couple of minutes. I was like I have never experienced this as a nurse. I have seen delusions and hallucinations, but I just like what is happening with my child.

Speaker 2: 18:28

Yeah, so these are very like normal occurrence right, I wouldn't say common, because not all children get them, but they are normal if they do occur. And the biggest difference between nightmares and night terrors I feel like terror is a good word to describe how you feel as a parent, because I feel like you're more terrified with the situation than your child is. Your child is not likely going to remember what happened. Okay, that is a big difference, Whereas with nightmares they have some like memory of it somewhat. But with the night terror, if you bring it up like Jacob, he had no idea.

Speaker 1: 19:11

He had. He looked at me I was like no, what happened? And he and so we still. Now I see a watermelon. I'm like triggered.

Speaker 2: 19:18

I'm like yeah, so I always use Jacob. Jacob is my fake baby name, so Jacob, like, do you remember what happened last night? You know you were, you seemed really scared. You're crying a lot. Mommy came in. You know like what can I do to help you through that situation? If you bring that up the next day, jacob's going to be like I don't know what you're talking about, mom.

Speaker 1: 19:43

Mm-hmm Totally.

Speaker 2: 19:43

I don't know what you're talking about mom Totally.

Speaker 2: 19:46

So you kind of don't want to really bring up those situations with nightmares, though you do want to talk about it, especially if your child mentions things like mommy, I saw this in my dream, or you know this happened, or why does this happen? Right, If they start questioning, like their nightmares or their dreams that they're having, then you kind of want to talk about it. And talk about it during the daytime, not right before they're going to sleep, and especially not in their bedroom. You want to keep that conversation out of their bedroom, outside of that sleep window, and kind of just reassure them that, first of all, they're safe. They're. You know mommy and daddy are right there when they need them, that you know there's no one or nothing in their room that can harm them. And you can also start using nightlights in that situation as well.

Speaker 2: 20:46

In both situations with nightmares and night terrors, definitely start using a nightlight. So this is a perfect situation where I get questions like will my child always need to sleep in a pitch black room? And I'm like, no, they will not. In fact, I will tell you to start using a nightlight. And here is a situation to perfectly start using a nightlight nightlight. And here is a situation to perfectly start using a nightlight A lot of the times. That alone will help reduce the nightmares and night terrors. Another thing to keep in mind is a lot of these experiences are also genetic, especially night terrors, so you may also want to keep that in mind as well, that sleep has a genetic component. Right, and nightmares, night terrors, are a part of your child's sleep and therefore it has an impact on that as well and therefore it has an impact on that as well.

Speaker 1: 21:38

Yeah, I mean, I used to. I remember this when I was in college and super, super tired I would sleepwalk. So now I'm like on edge if my kids are going to be, if they're going to have that trait passed along or not.

Speaker 2: 21:51

Yeah, but going back to this mom's question about, like, comforting them in that situation, right, like what to do. Mom's question about like comforting them in that situation, right, like what to do. So in both situations I would stay calm. First of all, stay calm because your child's not right. Someone has to stay calm and just hold them. Just hold them, do what you have to do, especially when they're having a night terror, because, again, like I said, they're not going to remember what is happening. It's all happening in their sleep, whereas with a nightmare they might come running to your room, right, and then in a night terror, you're going to have to go to their room because they're screaming and crying hysterically, and that's exactly what it looks like.

Speaker 1: 22:32

It was. You just described it. I mean it was. I've never seen it, because he was like awake to me but asleep, you know, and that is something. And, like you said, the nightmare is like you're up and you're like us talking, and that hasn't happened again. It happened once and it has not happened again. So maybe it was situational because we was in a big move situation he was fixing to have a baby brother. You know, maybe that was the cause, but no one had ever told me how to deal with that. So when this mom asked us, I was like we have to talk about this.

Speaker 2: 23:03

Yeah, and, like you said, it is situational. So any kind of like changes that your child is going to experience could also bring about those as well. So another thing to keep in mind is if they're overtired, so if they haven't been consistently getting their sleep needs met, that could put them in an overtired cycle and that could also be causing night terrors as well. So that's another thing to keep in mind.

Speaker 1: 23:31

Well, this brings that, brings a good into. You know this mom. She's saying that her two yearold is constantly waking up in the morning early, so getting overtired. Let's talk about this. So your two-year-old will make up that she's in preschool, right? So she's waking early, she's got preschool. You can't be like, okay, you know it's 5 am and she won't go back to sleep, they're in the car and now she's got a long day at preschool. What's if she don't nap great at preschool? What's if she? You know we get in this cycle, so now we're overtired cycle. How do we get out of this cycle?

Speaker 2: 24:03

Yeah, so it's hard to like set a daycare schedule, right Daycare, so the only.

Speaker 2: 24:09

Thing you could honestly do is implement like, or try to troubleshoot why that early waking is happening. Supplement like, or try to troubleshoot why that early waking is happening. Is your two-year-old ready to drop their nap, which I know it seems early, but maybe they need a little bit less of daytime sleep and if they're getting two hours, maybe they need only an hour, which is normal. You know they need less daytime sleep and then that hour gets pushed to the morning time and they start sleeping in another extra hour. So you kind of just want to adjust their daytime schedule and that will really help them prevent those early mornings. So that's all you can do on your end.

Speaker 2: 24:48

Another thing you can do on your end is do that early bedtime. Okay, do not hesitate to put your child to sleep at six or six, 30. I know you're like, oh, but I just picked them up from daycare. I want some time with them and you know I I get it, but it's temporary. It's a temporary fix, right, to help until your child is getting better sleep, reducing those night early wakings, things like that. So to prevent that overtired cycle, right, you want to do that early bedtime and then try to reduce that daytime sleep, if that's what's causing the early wakings.

Speaker 1: 25:27

And I think that's something I had to really grasp recently and you, off camera, I was like you know how to help me. I got a situation with Will in his sleep and she told me she was like the nap is too long. We got to you know heal and you fix me. But I think that is the whole concept that we have to like. There is a set time for each child of kind of sleep and if you are, you know if it's 12 hours, if it's 14 hours, whatever that nap takes from that bucket and eventually that bucket gets set as they grow. So that is a concept no one just really explained to me until you did recently is you know you can't have it always with like a perfect three hour nap plus a 12 hour at night, forever it does not work that way, exactly, exactly, and so many parents don't know it.

Speaker 2: 26:13

So if you did not know this, do not feel bad at all, like I did not know this either.

Speaker 1: 26:18

Same. So I was just like you're like your face. When I was like, okay, this is his nap and this is where he's going to bed. You're like no, no, no, and it's. Someone just has to break it down. This is what the whole point of this whole podcast is, is we're going to say it because we don't count on anyone else to say it to you guys. So that's such a great thing and we are going to end with this question. Oh, actually two questions. I forgot there's one more. This one's really good too, but the sibling sleep, Okay. So let's say it's time They've moved. Let's say, you know, now there's a situation going on where they each can't have their separate room or where you live. It's just not functional. And they're like what do we need to do to ensure it looks like this mom saying she's going to have a nine month old with her two year old. What do we do to make sure they both sleep and it looks like their sleep needs are met appropriately in the setup?

Speaker 2: 27:09

Yeah, so I would first get two independent sleepers. That is key, because if your nine month old is still waking up multiple times at night, or if they have sleep associations present and you're constantly having to go in, that's going to disrupt your two-year-old sleep, or vice versa, right? Maybe your two-year-old has sleep associations and your nine month old doesn't, so you want to get both of them to be independent sleepers no sleep associations and kind of you know. Do routine. Stagger them, basically because your nine month old is going to have a different bedtime than a two year old will, right, maybe, sometimes, sometimes they're the same, sometimes they're not, right, so it depends. And if you need to stagger them, the two year old may need a later bedtime than the nine month old.

Speaker 2: 28:00

So I would put your nine-month-old down first. You can still do the routine at the same time, right, if you're solo, like Sarah and I are most of the time. Most of the time, yes, so you can definitely do the routine at the same time. Occupy your two-year-old with some toys, right, that is key. Toys. No iPad, no phone, nothing like that, like we just talked about. No distractions, no stimulation, just simple toys or my favorite coloring book and crayons right.

Speaker 2: 28:33

Washable crayons. Learn my lesson the hard way. So you can do that and put your nine old down, then bring in your two year old, spend some time with your two year old, do some cuddles in their bed. You know, whatever you kind of do with them, that's your time with them, right? And then you kind of want to also set up a space, if the room is feasible for this, where both beds are on opposite sides so they're not kind of waking each other up or your two-year-old's not trying to have a conversation with your nine-month-old, right, because that will happen, yeah. So you may need to stay in the room until your two-year-old goes to sleep.

Speaker 2: 29:16

If that is happening, if that is waking your nine-month-old up, you may need to do the bedtime and like differently, like vice versa put your two-year-old down first, make sure they're sleeping if they're the chatty two-year-old, right, and then put your nine-month-old down. So it kind of really depends on how your personalities are, how your child's personalities are, the room itself, like I said, put them on opposite sides, have two separate sound machines going, one for your nine-month-old, one for your two-year-old, so any kind of sound is blocked, right, right? If you don't want to do that, then have one in the hallway and one in the room. That could also help and, you know, have I would probably recommend making sure all of the lights are off.

Speaker 2: 30:03

No nightlight in the situation, right, because we don't want to have the nightlight present for the nine month old, but if your two year old needs one, then you could definitely have something small. I wouldn't make it like so bright, right, maybe small on their side of the room. That's why it's important to have them divided. But yeah, you'll just have to do trial and error of what's working, what's not working. Really, I do have a really good blog because I did have my two kids sleep in the same room.

Speaker 1: 30:33

I did this out.

Speaker 2: 30:34

So if you want to read all of my tips on room sharing, I have it in the blog and I'm going to share that We'll link it. Yeah.

Speaker 1: 30:43

And I think it's something too that you know, stuff like that does and did give me a lot of anxiety, right, and it's like even, like you mentioned, we do bedtime routines, so a lot, and I think I had to in my head and to this mom who's like, how am I going to do this? You will do it. And I think it's how you. You're like, oh, what's if it's crazy? It's probably going to be crazy at times, you know, and it's not going to go perfectly every time, but she will figure it out and they will figure it out. And, like you said, you will figure out what distracts this kid. You will figure out. Okay, this is my climber, or this is my more adventurous child here that's going to try to throw all the water in the bathtub, so I need to put this one in first, whatever. So this is just an encouragement to these moms that you're hearing this and you're going. Well, how am I going to do this? You're going to do it, you'll figure it out Just like sharing a room.

Speaker 1: 31:35

Put them both down And're proof. Like, not every night is a pretty Instagram perfection in our homes, but we do it every day and we get up and we do it again. And let's hit our last question real quick so the older kids, they're ultimately gonna have new milestones. Here comes potty training and this mom is saying, okay, I'm worried about that impacting my great sleeper. So let's say she's like well, what if they get up and pee? And then, like, they don't ever go back to sleep? I mean, I've I've had those worries myself Like, okay, what's it? They think that's just a go, because I mean, beginning when we're working on nighttime potty training, you sometimes there's different methods, but it is something that you're like oh my gosh, I don't want this to go downhill quickly.

Speaker 2: 32:21

Yeah, yeah. So I just want to preface this by saying I'm not a potty training expert, but I have potty trained two children and they were both potty trained very differently. My son, who's younger, kind of dropped it on his own and I really did not have to do much at all, which was a good good thing. After having experienced it with my daughter, who wetted her bed multiple times for several months and it was a struggle I felt like I was doing endless laundry cleaning up that crib mattress. Luckily we did potty training while she was in the crib mattress, so that mattress is in the trash.

Speaker 2: 33:00

That is my first recommendation Do potty training in a mattress you plan to throw out, so do it when they're in the crib or in a toddler you know convertible crib bed situation before you transition them to like a full size or queen size bed, but yeah, two very different experiences. Queen size bed, but yeah, two very different experiences. And my thing was limiting the liquid, the water, the milk, whatever you give them. Towards the night I would limit it, so nothing past 6pm. Basically, whatever they drink, give it with dinner and then give them small sips of water if they really need it, right, but outside of that like stop those four ounce bottles of milk, or whatever you give them.

Speaker 2: 33:43

Don't give them a bottle of water in their bed when you're potty training. You can definitely reintroduce it once they're done with the process, but, yeah, definitely limiting the amount of liquid they have access to.

Speaker 1: 33:56

And I can say there is hope. You know, will will get up and if he needs to use the bathroom, he uses the bathroom, he goes back to sleep and so it goes back to a transition. We've talked about this but, like, you get these core principles that Yannati's teaching us of how our kids can go to sleep, stay to sleep. If they wake up, they check they're okay and they go back because they know how to put themselves to sleep. So again, encouragement. Was it rocky for a little bit? Yes, it was. Was Sarah doing lots of laundry? Yes, she was. Was I questioning if I've made the wrong choice in life? Absolutely, but it resolved and it's worth it. But, yeah, great points there. I mean, again, people don't tell you that, oh, you know, limit the fluids or, you know, get you a mattress pad cover like, get them off. Amazon, put those babies on there because they are going to soak through them.

Speaker 2: 34:45

Yes, yep.

Speaker 1: 34:47

And it is a lot easier to clean that than it is the mattress.

Speaker 2: 34:51

Yes, and sometimes you'll just have a perfect little kid who will naturally drop it on their own, which was my son.

Speaker 1: 35:00

I'm hoping that's baby James. I'm hoping that the second one's going to come through here and I can report back. I love these questions. You know our moms are like wanting for their older kids and we're tackling it together and we'll go ahead and do a little sneak peek for our listeners. Yannati is going to come back and she is going to do a personal episode with me to kind of share her journey. So you guys know her as your sleep guru, as your go-to, but you're going to get to know her a little bit more personal in the upcoming season of just hearing about her journey. So we're really excited and thankful that you're going to come back and give us a glimpse into your journey.

Speaker 2: 35:36

Yeah, thank you a glimpse into your journey.

Speaker 1: 35:40

Yeah, thank you, I'm excited for that episode, sarah. All right, guys, we have empowered you. We have conquered night terrors what to do about potty aid in the night We've talked about transitions. We've talked about early morning wake up. So again, we are going to link everything you know. His blog is amazing. Her Instagram is I'm saying this as someone who creates Instagram posts like dreams are made of, of information that she gives you guys. So please follow her and get that like, get that info, go for it Like. This is free information out there, and then, if you need more help, contact her and she will tell you how you can get more of a personalized plan. Just like we say with therapy, we will give you a broad good tips, but sometimes you need that one-on-one. No shame, and that is how it works. So, inadi, your pleasure and thank you again.

Speaker 2: 36:24

Thank you for having me, sarah, always a great time chatting with you, all right guys.

Speaker 1: 36:29

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