Speaker 1: 0:01

Hey guys, welcome back to Preview Alliance podcast. This is Sarah and we are in our holiday season. This season, whitney and I decided to do replay episodes because these are some of our most listened to episodes and so vital to equip and empower you guys through the stressful holiday season. So, no matter where you are at in life, these episodes are made for you, to help guide you, to support you and know you're not alone. So hang in there, we're right there with you. Stay tuned. Hey guys, welcome back to preview alliance Alliance. It's Sarah and Whitney. And guess what? We're holiday series and you know what we got to do? Hey, whitney, hey, hey. So we got some great questions and the first one is hey, whitney, I dread the holidays. I find myself exhausted and overwhelmed. How can I rest and enjoy this when I'm the only one here making things happen?

Speaker 2: 1:07

So let me just say I really feel this in my soul yeah, like this is gonna make me sound like a Grinch, and that's okay, it is what it is. I've never really loved Christmas since I was a teenager.

Speaker 1: 1:17

Yeah.

Speaker 2: 1:18

It's very overwhelming, it's very demanding. So to this mama, I see you, I hear you, I see you, I hear you, I feel you. So one thing that I would encourage you to do?

Speaker 1: 1:31

is there anything you can delegate?

Speaker 2: 1:32

Yeah, Can you order food instead of having to make everything from scratch? Pick it up.

Speaker 1: 1:35

Yes, they bring it to your car half the time.

Speaker 2: 1:38

I was about to say whether that means that you order from like Ashley Mac's, a place here in Alabama that does like the homemade casseroles, or like my husband's side of the family. For Christmas Eve they order pizza. That's been their tradition every year.

Speaker 1: 1:51

Because why not?

Speaker 2: 1:52

Yeah, I mean, there's no reason not to. So. Domino's, papa John's, pizza Hut, whoever we use, they take the brunt of that. They bring it to the house, it's easy. So what can you delegate to others that you feel good about? Can family bring stuff you know, like someone bringing the sweet potato casserole?

Speaker 1: 2:10

Maybe someone who doesn't have a newborn should make the more heavy dish.

Speaker 2: 2:13

Yeah, agreed.

Speaker 1: 2:15

Just putting that out there.

Speaker 2: 2:17

Yeah, let's just throw that out there. Or you know what? Casseroles from Walmart, from the freezer section, the Evans.

Speaker 1: 2:21

What is this Mashed from the freezer section, the Evans? What is those mashed potatoes? They're so good, yeah, bob.

Speaker 2: 2:24

Evans. Yes, those are great, and the mac and cheese Put it in the crock pot.

Speaker 1: 2:27

Nobody's going to know.

Speaker 2: 2:28

Oh yeah, it's fine, I'll put it out in my plastic container and be like I popped it in the microwave. Sure did. Yeah, I mean, and if a cup of coffee For me? I can't drink coffee, so tea, mine's V8. Yeah, I got my Splenda tea in the morning. I need my five, 10 minute. Okay, I can do this. Let's, you know, kind of wake myself up here a little bit Things like that. So I would encourage delegate out what you can delegate out. I'm one of those weird people. I do start my Christmas shopping between September and October. So start early if you can, if you can. I know Amazon did two prime days this year, which was great that they did a fall prime day, because my five-year-old is getting to the point now where she can tell me more of what she wants. Yeah, so I don't need to assume and buy her stuff like super, super early, because what if she changes her mind? Well, they love that.

Speaker 1: 3:25

And here comes the 15,000 Christmas toy catalogs that get sent to us.

Speaker 2: 3:29

Yeah, those find their way in the trash somehow.

Speaker 1: 3:31

It's a mystery, Whitney's like let me put you away.

Speaker 2: 3:34

Yeah, it's a mystery how that happens. So, if you can Christmas shop early, do that that way, it's less all at one time. Yes, do that that way, it's less all at one time. Yes, I would also encourage you anything that you do on the regular, see if you can do like a subscribe and save to Amazon. So, whether it's dog food or vitamins or anything Diapers, yes, diapers. Wipes. Formula which formula is still so hard to come by? So I feel you. Formula mamas, I feel you. I know that the shortage is still so bad, but if there's anything at all that you can put on that routine thing that you don't have to think about, do it. Whether that means your bills on auto pay, yeah.

Speaker 1: 4:14

Make your life easier?

Speaker 2: 4:15

Yes, so whatever you need to do to streamline your life, throw that in there. Do you have support that can help you? Yeah. So if that means you know, maybe grandparents take your baby for a day so you can wrap gifts or so you can clean, or you know, I did this for my birthday this year, where my parents are like, what do you want? I'm like I don't need anything. I said, but I would love for my house to get cleaned. Yeah, and so they gave me money and we hired a cleaning company and it was nice to have somebody do that deep clean that I truly just can't make happen. Yeah, but they could.

Speaker 1: 4:51

Yeah, they were there for a couple of hours. They're professionals and there's a team of them usually. And this is just what they do.

Speaker 2: 4:56

Yeah, Like these two ladies knocked out cleaning my home which I don't have a large house, but they knocked out deep cleaning my house in two and a half hours. So let, and I'm over here just like how.

Speaker 1: 5:05

Well, it would have took you like a day and a half. Let's be honest.

Speaker 2: 5:07

Yeah, while my children are remessing things up, mm-hmm.

Speaker 1: 5:13

Yeah, that's mom. We I think we all kind of dread and feel overwhelmed because moms make the magic. We talk about this, yeah, um, but look at ways that you're not putting more on you yeah and it's okay. And you know what voice journal I've always shown, a lot during this season, oh heck, yeah, and deep breathe and ground and all the cool things we've taught you before. But you'll get through it, yeah you will.

Speaker 2: 5:34

you will get through this and remind, remind yourself of that too. It is a holiday season, not year.

Speaker 1: 5:39

It is a season.

Speaker 2: 5:40

So really, truly, it is two months, I'm going to say beginning of November till the new year. It is two months of kind of go go, go, go go. You will get through it, it will get better. One thing that might be helpful once the holiday season has passed, things settle a little bit, Try and past. Things settle a little bit, try and write down kind of what it looked like that way come September, October of next year. Yes, it's like okay, how can I go ahead and start planning things? How can I go ahead and start knocking some of this stuff out? What do I want to do?

Speaker 1: 6:09

different this year, and what conversations do I need to have about that?

Speaker 2: 6:14

Absolutely, and so having the ability to kind of reflect back onto it, because hindsight's 2020.

Speaker 1: 6:19

So good, okay, whitney, you ready for your next one? Let's do it, okay. We are trying for a child and find the holidays so hard. Seems like there are a million pregnancy announcements, and it really gets to me. I feel like I should be happy for them, but I'm not.

Speaker 2: 6:35

Well, first off, it's okay if you don't feel happy for them. That doesn't make you a bad person or bad friend.

Speaker 1: 6:41

Yeah.

Speaker 2: 6:41

Because you're not going to that person saying I'm so upset about your pregnancy announcement. Yeah, feel your feelings, it's not a bad thing to do, right? And also it's very lonely, I mean, I feel like the holidays can be lonely anyway and I feel like infertility can be lonely anyway, so we kind of have a double whammy right there. So with that, I would say, limit your social media intake if that's where you're seeing the announcements and everybody announces.

Speaker 1: 7:09

I remember trying after our loss and trying for Will, and it was the holidays and I remember every I don't blame them, I would have loved to do it too had the cute like I'm expecting it from the Christmas tree More the merrier, yes, and it's like. Or even New Year's People love to pop out New Year's Like something's coming in 2023. And that's that's. I was exact. I felt this mom so much when she put this in, because it's like that is so hard it is. But I think limiting social media is a huge. It's a big one. I think. Talking to a safe person or voice journaling, if you're like, cause that can be stressful on your partner, cause like they're trying, they're hurting too or they don't get it the way we do sometimes, it's just different.

Speaker 2: 7:50

Let it out. Yeah, voice journal is a good option. I would even say, you know, maybe even do therapy, because infertility has grief.

Speaker 1: 7:58

Yes, the loss of something that you want.

Speaker 2: 8:01

Your expectations aren't what you had hoped that they would be. Yeah, so maybe even see a therapist and, you know, honestly, talk about the grief that you're experiencing yeah, you know, because it is a loss and coping, yeah, because you know, let's say that not only are you trying to get pregnant, but maybe you've also had a miscarriage. It hurts so bad. And so again, double whammy, double layers of grief there.

Speaker 1: 8:28

So processing that grief, recognizing that you know social media is not going to help at this time. No, the Hallmark movies, as I wear a Hallmark movie sweatshirt. They don't show that and you're not going to see behind the facade of people's smiles. They're probably hurting too.

Speaker 2: 8:46

Yeah.

Speaker 1: 8:47

So to this mom we're so sorry.

Speaker 1: 8:49

We know it's hard, it's hard to walk that road and you're not alone and you don't have to feel happy about not having something that you're trying for, wanting for, praying for, and just encourage you that you're not alone. Yeah, absolutely All right. Okay, hey, whitney, we keep getting asked when the next kid is Ooh, and I'm dreading seeing my extended family who love to ask all the questions. Of course they do. The truth is, we're not trying for more and we're happy with our son. How can I tell them, mind their business.

Speaker 2: 9:22

So I feel this too, because when we were going through infertility, everyone's like well, when are you going to get pregnant? When are you going to get pregnant?

Speaker 1: 9:28

I got asked today when the next they go, when you going for the girl, and I said I mean, I said really I was like I don't have a uterus and they're like, oh what, I'm like, yeah, no Lost it. Lost it, didn't choose to lose it, yeah, but it's like one of those things. Why do people feel like they should ask us legit when you have another kid? Yeah, if you're having a kid, yeah.

Speaker 2: 9:52

Same thing, I'm sure like.

Speaker 1: 9:53

I, when I was like single, they'd be like are you dating anybody?

Speaker 2: 9:56

Yeah, or if you're dating, are you getting married? Do you want to?

Speaker 1: 9:59

Yeah, it's like do you want kids? Do you want more Like? Why?

Speaker 2: 10:02

Yeah. So what do you tell them? It's ridiculous. So, admittedly, this is probably not a great thing, but I'm going to tell myself here hey, why not, why not? We're family here with my oldest daughter, which is the one we had to do infertility treatments to get pregnant with. Someone said well, you know, y'all have been married for nearly 10 years. When are you going to have kids? And I said well, you know, we're actually working with a doctor on that and it's not as easy as you think. So you can go the sassy route. Okay, we can be sassy, we can be sassy. I don't know that it will end well, depending on the other person's response. So I say that with kind of a grain of salt.

Speaker 1: 10:38

Yeah, Just throwing it out there Sometimes when you like you're already over it. Let's just be honest. You're over it. And if you had a crystal ball and you could say you know what, After our fifth IV cycle coming up, or if we, you know, after two more losses, I will finally get pregnant, you know if you could say that, whatever Right, you pregnant. You know if you could say that whatever right. You could look at them and say, but you can't.

Speaker 2: 11:00

Yeah, you don't know, yeah, and so you know you can be sassy. Okay, you want to be sassy if it's at that point. I mean, I've done it before and it honestly, the person was kind of deer in the headlights. Yeah, they're like oh, and I was like, yeah, it's not as easy to get pregnant for everybody.

Speaker 1: 11:14

And it's. Or you can say you know what. It's a really painful experience for me right now and I'm not feel comfortable talking. When are you know? I'll share when I'm ready, yeah.

Speaker 2: 11:23

Well, and then I know, for me personally, it was so much easier for me to tell a lot of people well, we just don't want children, then we can't have them.

Speaker 1: 11:33

Yeah, Because you feel like I'm saying something's wrong with me or my husband or my body.

Speaker 2: 11:37

So you know. As far as people saying, well, when are you going to have another one, you can say, well, it's just not in the books right now. They don't have to know that. That is a personal choice. Yeah, Could it lead them to believe that it's a medical thing and infertility Possibly? Yeah, but that's their own fault for assuming. It's also their fault for putting you in that position.

Speaker 1: 11:55

And I know moms who they're like I for my mental health. No, that's not best, for me to add a child, yeah.

Speaker 1: 12:02

Or it's not best for me to do whatever, and that's fine, and it's best for my mental health to only have two children and Uh-huh, and that's okay, that's okay, yeah. So to this mom we know you're going to get these questions in the holidays because you're seeing extended family, you're seeing cousins, you're seeing family, you're family friends, right? You're going back to your hometown or whatever, or you're meeting new people who are being brought into the family, and that's kind of just. I think questions that people assume are just like talking points.

Speaker 2: 12:29

Yeah, it can be very hurtful, especially in the South and intrusive, very intrusive and judgmental.

Speaker 1: 12:35

So, like Whitney said, if a sass moment comes out, it comes out. I'm not going to tell you you're doing wrong if it happens. Whitney's not going to shame nobody on that one. And especially if Aunt Brenda comes to play oh Brenda, aunt Brenda, I would just tell it's happened to all of us, unfortunately. And whichever way, I think it's kind of situational how you handle it. But you know, if you want to speak your truth, speak your truth. If you want to distract and ask them about them, people love talking about themselves.

Speaker 2: 13:01

Well, but also let's kind of piggyback off of that for just a minute here. Let's just say, you know it's someone who has good intentions. It's not Aunt am Brenda, okay. So let's just say it's maybe a cousin or somebody that you know, but you're not like super close.

Speaker 1: 13:17

And they're not in your day to day. You haven't shared what's going on.

Speaker 2: 13:20

I mean they're really just trying to have a conversation with you not being nosy, but having a conversation and they say oh well, when do you guys think you're going to have kids, or when are you going to have another kid? That's when you just say you know, that's just super personal. Yeah, you know, I would really appreciate not talking about that right now. Yeah, or again, if we're going to go the sassy route, if it is Aunt Brenda, then you say well, what are you doing with your uterus, aunt Brenda? Where?

Speaker 1: 13:45

are you going to have?

Speaker 2: 13:46

another child. Yeah, oh, you're 72 and that can't happen. Oh, okay, then yeah, what?

Speaker 1: 13:53

a shame. And here's the holiday aspect. Sorry, I get sassy about this. Well, because it's personal and we've struggled and we know what it feels like to be asked when you're struggling or where you're in the trenches. I mean, I remember bringing baby James home from the hospital and someone stopped me and asked me when the next one is. I had had that child a day ago.

Speaker 2: 14:11

Yeah, I had a very similar situation when my oldest, sydney was born. Now this was pre COVID.

Speaker 1: 14:15

Yeah.

Speaker 2: 14:15

So you had all the visitors coming in. Now, mind you, she is also the one that we went through a year of infertility treatments to get pregnant with, okay, and at that point we had told everybody, like, at that point I had felt comfortable being more open with our infertility stuff, so it was not unknown, especially to family, yeah, and my husband's aunt was there and, mind you, I'm like I don't know. Four hours postpartum, yeah, like I had just gotten into my postpartum room and so she goes. Well, when are you going to have another one? And I said, well, it's really not possible for me to have another child right now, seeing as I just birthed that one a couple of hours ago. Yeah, so how about we just enjoy the one that we have?

Speaker 1: 14:56

yeah, or we're loving our time with our son, right? Now yeah and you know? Oh, let me tell you what he's loving right now yeah just whatever, just push it. Yeah, I just hate this, even has to be like a question for moms.

Speaker 2: 15:09

But I know it's gonna happen.

Speaker 1: 15:10

I hate it but moms, we're here, we're for moms, but I know it's going to happen. I hate it, but moms, we're here, we're. We're getting asked these questions too, and it's it's not, it's not easy, it sucks though. Oh, I love a good mother-in-law question. Here we go Fun.

Speaker 2: 15:35

My mother-in-law always insists that Christmas is at her house and I get every guilt trip under the sun. Give me some tips, whitney. Okay, so my first question is why do you want to add your home.

Speaker 2: 15:39

Is it because maybe you've just bought your first home and you really enjoy hospitality, like you enjoy hosting? It's almost like a gift that you've got and you really just want to do it, Like you love having that warm, open home for people to come into. Or maybe it's easier for you because you have small children? It's like I would rather host than load my kids up in the car and drive all over Timbuktu, yeah. So my first question is what is the reasoning behind it? Because if we know, the reason behind it.

Speaker 2: 16:11

That's what we take to your mother-in-law.

Speaker 1: 16:13

And what's if I don't like her? I don't want this. I don't want to go to her house.

Speaker 2: 16:17

I wouldn't necessarily say that to her face because that probably won't go well. So that's when I would say you know, I really want the opportunity to host you guys. Okay, reframe, yes, reframe it a little bit, because you do want the opportunity to host. You don't have to incorporate that you dislike her or that you dislike her house, or blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

Speaker 1: 16:37

I've had some clients say well, my in-laws house is not childproof at all, it's not structurally safe for my children, and most aren't, because they've moved on past these life and they're not looking at the sharp edges, they're not looking at the breaking.

Speaker 2: 16:52

It's just not fun for the mom, exactly, and so I would say reframe it, approach her and say you know, I really want the opportunity to host you guys. It doesn't have to be like this forever. You know, maybe we can alternate years. Okay, you know, throw that out there, see if there's a compromise that can be had, do you?

Speaker 1: 17:07

think that you're seeing in general that if it's the partner side family that that's having the issue, the partner should make those discussions with the family more so than it can.

Speaker 2: 17:20

Okay, absolutely. If you feel like that is a better way to approach it, if you feel like the family will be more receptive to it, okay.

Speaker 1: 17:27

Absolutely. And then what about and I think it's important, and you've told me this before in different things just you and your partner getting on the same page first, and then what did they commit, but without asking you?

Speaker 2: 17:40

Oh, that's a hard one Because that's come up between me and my husband and again, it was never like he was like doing it behind my back or blah, blah, blah things like that, and it's sometimes easier.

Speaker 1: 17:51

I feel like, especially for husbands or partners, that they can kind of like yeah, sure, okay, or I'll talk to Sarah about that, or yeah, we'll see if we can make that happen, yeah, and that person on the other end is like oh, it's happening. Oh, yeah, for sure.

Speaker 2: 18:07

It's a commitment at that point. So that's when you say, hey, I get that sometimes it's hard to say no to our families. You may have felt cornered, but I would really appreciate if we would talk about it first before we commit to one thing or the other.

Speaker 1: 18:20

Yeah, and then probably have some other words at the end of the day.

Speaker 2: 18:25

But well, and that's when you say it's a learning opportunity.

Speaker 1: 18:27

Yeah.

Speaker 2: 18:27

Well, that's when you say to just us talking about it doesn't mean it's an automatic no from me, yeah Well that's when you say to just us talking about it doesn't mean it's an automatic no from me, let's just, I just need to know, because, logistically, what if I had something else in my head to be planned for that day? Or whatever the case is.

Speaker 1: 18:39

And it's harder to because, like I feel like when you have it, if you have a newborn, you have young kids. Sometimes the family, even our spouses or partners, don't understand all the logistics as moms that were like, yeah, but that's your nap time, or I have to bring their cup, their la-la, their diapers, their change of clothes, Everything I have to like. For me this is so much harder, or this is going to have to work this way, because they just sometimes don't. They may get it, they don't think about it, yeah, or they're not the one doing it, okay, so you're not alone. Nope, and have those conversations now. And, like we talked earlier in a past episode, boundaries and setting expectations doesn't always have to leave everybody with a great feeling, agreed, but then, guess what? You do it the first time and I think it's going to get easier next year it will, you'll build that confidence, yeah that confidence.

Speaker 1: 19:33

Yeah, rip that band-aid. Okay, here we go. Hey, whitney, my daughter was born premature. I'm having extreme anxiety over taking her to family gatherings. You know it's RSV flu season, covid. My family does not get this Any help. How to explain this to them?

Speaker 2: 19:45

So, first off, you know they most likely already know that your baby's a preemie. Okay, so that most likely means baby went to the NICU.

Speaker 1: 19:56

I would assume they're born earlier than term, which is now what? 37 weeks or 36?, that's actually still late preemies.

Speaker 2: 20:03

Okay, they consider full term like 39 weeks.

Speaker 1: 20:06

Oh boy Okay.

Speaker 2: 20:07

So they've really changed the rules, so to speak when it comes to gestation. Now, that being said, if you have a 37-weeker, I doubt that they're going to go to NICU just because they were born at 37 weeks Throwing that out there. If they go to NICU at 37 weeks it's probably a weight thing or meconium like a bunch of different things, not just the 37-week thing.

Speaker 2: 20:29

So I would say, you know, make sure, if you want to bring your child, let's go with that first. If you want to bring your child to the holidays, that's when you need to say, okay, we're coming, but we need everybody to be very aware that our baby cannot be around anybody that is sick. Yeah, so I don't care if you say, oh, it's just allergies, it's just a cold.

Speaker 1: 20:52

I've had it for a month. It's this yeah.

Speaker 2: 20:55

I don't care. You don't need to be around my baby. Do not kiss my baby.

Speaker 1: 21:00

I don't think anybody should be kissing babies during the holiday season. I agree First off. That's just my soapbox.

Speaker 2: 21:04

Well, that's how my oldest one got RSV.

Speaker 1: 21:06

So yeah, literally, because I will never forget that Adults do not know, sometimes that we have the virus and transmit in that mouth. And everybody wants to kiss a baby and I get that, and sometimes you have these aunts and grandmothers that it's just like that's what they do, but it's like and it's so awkward and I'm just like. So what? I once someone told me it was a fellow Nikki mom who, because Will was awkward, she said wear him, put him in a wrap wear him If you can.

Speaker 1: 21:37

If you can If they're small enough for that, if they're small enough and kind of you know, it's going to be harder for someone to very intrusively unwrap him, take him from my chest, yeah, and I could kind of just, you know, put my hand there if you're trying to go for it, or turn my shoulder, yeah. So that's one thing I would say.

Speaker 2: 21:55

But you, that's one thing I would say but you have to, it's your baby. So I would say, if you want to bring your baby, make sure that you say if you've been sick, let us know, because we will choose not to come. Yeah, just because we cannot risk our baby getting sick. You know, if it makes you feel better for people to wear a mask around your baby, ask them for that. Masks are so much more available now than they were a couple of years ago.

Speaker 2: 22:19

Hand washing ask them for that mask are so much more available now than they were a couple of years ago. Hand washing, I was gonna say good hand hygiene. No again soapbox. No kissing the baby, I don't care if you avoid the face. If you kiss my child's hand, they're gonna put that well. Because that's what happened with sydney, because she was a few weeks shy of turning one. We were at a family christmas on christmas eve and aunt took her hand kissed on it.

Speaker 1: 22:39

Because that's what they do.

Speaker 2: 22:41

That's what they do, Very old school, super old school, like in her seventies, eighties, old school. And guess what? Christmas night, a good 48 hours later which is the perfect incubation for RSV she woke up screaming in the middle of the night with a 102 fever.

Speaker 1: 22:57

So, and that's a good point. So she was almost one, so we're talking about babies and like she was not a preemie.

Speaker 2: 23:04

She was born at 39 and two, so we're talking about just in general.

Speaker 1: 23:07

If you have kids, it's challenging enough. If you have older kids in school or daycare or just the holidays and family and germs, it's hard to navigate this alone. So it's okay, set these rules. Hey guys you know, or if you have a medically complex child and say we can't, my baby cannot have this, yeah, and this is detrimental, and again, not because I would do this to my Pete cause.

Speaker 2: 23:29

I love our pediatrician, love her to death, but throw your Pete under the bus. Yes, so your pediatrician advised you to do or not to do this and this and this.

Speaker 1: 23:39

They advise us that it's best not to be in family gatherings, large crowds Right now. Or, you know, we just at the end of the day, we, you know we'll FaceTime in, yeah, and you know, send some pictures. We'd love to.

Speaker 2: 23:51

We hope when the you know different time different season, maybe in the springtime, we can all get together. You know, get together, you know things of that nature.

Speaker 1: 23:57

But do not feel guilt or shame. No, Because you know what? At the end of the day, I say this is like you're the mom who has to take care of the kid and you're the one who's going to be like Whitney, waking up to the scream of the fever and being upset and fearful of your child, and for some babies this could mean hospitalization or death. So, this is something that you should never feel bad about advocating for your child.

Speaker 1: 24:19

And you know, just do not kiss a baby without getting somebody's permission. I just don't kiss a baby. I guess it's weird too. I'm just going to say it.

Speaker 2: 24:27

Like, let's just not kiss the babies, please, please, please, please. If you are listening to this and you do not have a child yourself, you are a family member, friend, what have you Please hear us say with genuine hearts do not kiss babies this they can get severely sick even my 39 to almost one year old daughter, who was very healthy. She is not my sicky child at all I had to take her to the pediatrician daily for a week to get o2 sats taken on her, and that's so terrifying as a mom.

Speaker 1: 24:58

It was horrible, and I was a first time mom too, and that's like the summary of your holiday. There was just like oh, it's yeah, it was.

Speaker 2: 25:06

I will never forget it, because then I got her out of the crib, honestly, took her Jamie's off of her, sat up in the recliner the rest of the night just with a very, very lightweight swaddle blanket just laid over her and her diaper holding her up so she could sleep, and I'm over there freaking out of. Do I go to children's, do I?

Speaker 1: 25:25

wait for the P to open. What do I do? What do I do? What do I do? And you know what? And that that person and these people, especially the old school, that's not their intention, but they just simply don't know better.

Speaker 1: 25:32

So we just so you got, it's okay to tell them. Yeah, Okay, m moms, we have gave you some really hot topics. We're going to continue more episodes. Yes, that's right. Hey, if you ever have a question a hey, whitney question you're in the middle of it and you're like I really want to know DM us on Instagram.

Speaker 1: 25:46

Yes, absolutely Send it to us and we'll give it to her. Yeah, for sure, and Whitney loves this. Oh yeah, it's fun. Till next time, guys. Maternal mental health is as important as physical health. The previous alliance podcast was created for and by moms dealing with postpartum depression and all its variables, like anxiety, anger and even apathy. Hosted by ceo founder sarah parkhurst and licensed clinical social worker, whitney gay, each episode focused on specific issues relevant to pregnancy and postpartum. Join us and hear how other moms have overcome mental health challenges, as well as access tips and suggestions on dealing with your own challenges as moms. You can also browse our podcast library and listen to previous episodes at any time. Please know you're not alone on this journey. We're here to help.