There are few experiences as universal to human existence as pregnancy and childbirth, and yet its most difficult parts — perinatal mood and anxiety disorders (PMADs) — are still dealt with in the shadows, shrouded in stigma. The fact is 1 in 5 new and expecting birthing people will experience a PMAD, yet among those who do many are afraid to talk about it, some are not even aware they’re experiencing one, and others don’t know where to turn for help. The fact is, when someone suffers from a maternal mental health disorder it affects not only them, their babies, partners, and families - it impacts our communities.
In the Previa Alliance Podcast series, Sarah Parkhurst and Whitney Gay are giving air to a vastly untapped topic by creating a space for their guests — including survivors of PMADs and healthcare professionals in maternal mental health — to share their experiences and expertise openly. And in doing so, Sarah and Whitney make it easy to dig deep and get real about the facts of perinatal mental health, fostering discussions about the raw realities of motherhood. Not only will Previa Alliance Podcast listeners walk away from each episode with a sense of belonging, they’ll also be armed with evidence-based tools for healing, coping mechanisms, and the language to identify the signs and symptoms of PMADs — the necessary first steps in a path to treatment. The Previa Alliance Podcast series is intended for anyone considering pregnancy, currently pregnant, and postpartum as well as the families and communities who support them.
Sarah Parkhurst
Previa Alliance Podcast Co-host; Founder & CEO of Previa Alliance
A postpartum depression survivor and mom to two boys, Sarah is on a mission to destigmatize the experiences of perinatal mood and anxiety disorders (PMADs), and to educate the world on the complex reality of being a mom. Sarah has been working tirelessly to bring to light the experiences of women who have not only suffered a maternal mental health crisis but who have survived it and rebuilt their lives. By empowering women to share their own experiences, by sharing expert advice and trusted resources, and by advocating for health care providers and employers to provide support for these women and their families, Sarah believes as a society we can minimize the impact of the current maternal mental health crisis, while staving off future ones.
Whitney Gay
Previa Alliance Podcast Co-host; licensed clinician and therapist
For the past ten years, Whitney has been committed to helping women heal from the trauma of a postpartum mental health crisis as well as process the grief of a miscarriage or the loss of a baby. She believes that the power of compassion paired with developing critical coping skills helps moms to heal, rebuild, and eventually thrive. In the Previa Alliance Podcast series, Whitney not only shares her professional expertise, but also her own personal experiences of motherhood and recovery from grief.
Join us with Previa Playback this holiday season! Happy New Year! Have you ever found yourself a few months into the new year frustrated with your progress toward unrealistic resolutions? If so, then you must join Sarah and Whitney for the first podcast of 2024 as Whitney shares her strategy for leaning into the new year with a positive mindset and with goals that are more in line with motherhood, fitness, and personal growth.
Hey guys, welcome back to Preview Alliance podcast. This is Sarah and we are in our holiday season. This season, whitney and I decided to do replay episodes because these are some of our most listened to episodes and so vital to equip and empower you guys through the stressful holiday season. So, no matter where you are at in life, these episodes are made for you, to help guide you, to support you and know you're not alone. So hang in there. We're are made for you to help guide you, to support you and know you're not alone. So hang in there, we're right there with you. Stay tuned. Hey guys, welcome back to the Preview Alliance podcast. Happy 2024. Holy cow, it's 2024. It's Sarah and Whitney. We're here New year.
Speaker 2:
sing us Happy new year. But you guys are probably feeling a little bit like we are Like whoo okay, it's almost like the holiday letdown, but also we're gearing up for a new year. It's a weird combination of feelings.
Speaker 1:
No one really knows. Should we be eating a zillion?
Speaker 2:
things we're in limbo.
Speaker 1:
Should we be like sewing our sweats? Should we be like trying to take on the world?
Speaker 2:
Like are the Christmas decorations up or down?
Speaker 1:
Yeah, it's ooh and that's a very strong like divide. People have People feel very certain.
Speaker 2:
I'm sure people would not appreciate my take on it.
Speaker 1:
Some come down. I'm more of like I've got to get it down, that's me.
Speaker 2:
I like to get it down and get my house kind of organized and clean so I can think a little more clearly.
Speaker 1:
But some people they are like hard set. No, it doesn't come down until January 3rd, 4th, whatever. Some people are like I keep some of it up to Valentine's Day.
Speaker 2:
I'm like okay whatever works for you. I have a client, bless their heart. They broke their ankle and their tree ended up staying up all year because they just never could get it down. Well, you know what?
Speaker 1:
They took the ornaments off no-transcript tree, you wouldn't think twice, you'd be like I know that really bothers her uh-huh, I'd be like, okay, what's your address?
Speaker 2:
am I going by chick-fil-a on my way in? Tell me what we need.
Speaker 1:
She's's going to lose her mind.
Speaker 2:
Yeah.
Speaker 1:
But we are going to talk about why. We said it before, but it's always a good reminder. We don't do resolutions.
Speaker 2:
We don't.
Speaker 1:
And I know you're going to be hearing it everywhere you turn.
Speaker 2:
It's kind of shoved down our throats.
Speaker 1:
This is new year, new. You set your intention, set your goals. We love all that. Okay, but let's break this down, okay. 80% of people abandon their resolutions by February. Okay.
Speaker 2:
So yeah, that doesn't last long friends.
Speaker 1:
Less than 10% succeed, okay. And actually somebody said only maybe 8%. That's not to say that you're not going to succeed. That's not saying that you're not going to be that.
Speaker 2:
But let's set ourselves up for success over failure.
Speaker 1:
Right, because what happens here is people tend to shoot for the moon and stars. Right, because we all can do that when effort's not involved. Right, it's like hey, whitney, I'm gonna start running like you and I'm gonna join you. Yeah, when I texted her and Jenny the other day and said, y'all, I ran 800 meters and I kept thinking the whole entire time.
Speaker 2:
No, I thought you.
Speaker 1:
No, I thought how did these two and I thought what is wrong with them Like that's literally the thoughts that was coming in my mind was you and Jenny being like signing up for a marathon? So me setting a resolution that Sarah is going to be running with Jenny and Whitney, she just ain't in the car.
Speaker 2:
And that's okay, because I can't do weights, uh-huh, just saying in the car.
Speaker 1:
And that's okay, because I can't do weights. So that's you know, and I love a good HIIT strength. You know CrossFit workout, so you know. Speaking of this, the most commonly abandoned resolutions Whitney, you probably see this with your clients is health, fitness, weight loss, exercise. Right, this is all research-based, so we're not saying anything that you guys probably don't know about your lives. But why does it not work out? Lack of motivation, willpower, right, and some said they just set unrealistic goals.
Speaker 2:
I would agree with that. The unrealistic goals, I would say I don't love the idea of saying that you don't have motivation or willpower, because that's negative.
Speaker 1:
Right.
Speaker 2:
But if I say that I am going to run a marathon this year, which I have never ran a marathon, don't really have a desire to. I've done a couple of halves and halves are hard, right. But if I tell myself, okay, I'm going to run a marathon and I'm going to qualify for Boston, which y'all just Google what it takes to qualify- for Boston and we lived outside of Boston so that was a huge thing.
Speaker 1:
So people like it's a big deal, it is a huge ordeal.
Speaker 2:
It's a big deal so for Whitney to come in, who has never ran a marathon, who really doesn't have the desire to run a marathon, and I also maintain a 10 and a half minute pace, which is not that fast compared to like professional runners. Whitney ain't qualifying for Boston. That don't need to be my resolution.
Speaker 1:
And well, you know now that we're we really, because I love finding out more details about resolutions, right and?
Speaker 1:
it's saying that the younger individuals tend to have a slightly higher successful rate. They may not have children. That's what I was going to say. This I would love they have more flexibility in their schedule. I always say this all the time. So Preview Alliance is a startup company. People say, well, what's a startup company? That's essentially where you started up from yourself, idea on Right from the scratch, and you build it and you are out there learning. I mean, I always tell people it's like the best master's degree I've ever received in my life is the School of Hard Knocks.
Speaker 1:
But I'm out there a lot of times fighting against others. School of hard knocks, but I'm out there a lot of times fighting against others not fighting against, it shouldn't be the right word. But in the same realm of startups, um founders who are young, single men. Nothing against them. They're not trying to solve maternal mental health, like I am, but they have no idea of like. Well, what do you mean? You woke up three times because your kids got up and like this morning, you know they don't comprehend.
Speaker 2:
But how do they know?
Speaker 1:
They don't comprehend right, like they don't comprehend the extra that's added on to moms of the mental load I mean we're not, honestly, probably all getting good night's sleeps consistently and the lack of like the village that we're supposed to have, that we don't have to give us that support to. Often sticking to resolutions and behavioral changes take time. Most research suggests it takes the average of 66 days, oh yes, to form a new habit and stick with it. And so we all know our lovely children are unpredictable, very, and just when we think we have a good hold on life, they're going to rip that carpet from us.
Speaker 1:
Uh-huh, cold flu, rsv strep Bone you know All the things Work through something at you.
Speaker 2:
Or it's a teacher workday at school and now you got got to be mom because you are the child care now when they're in public school.
Speaker 1:
You are. That is a whole level of another brokenness of our system for moms.
Speaker 1:
But, let's talk about specifically. So we were pretty general there. Let's talk about how the landscape of priorities again with these resolutions come in with moms right, we're kind of touching on it. But motherhood's very unpredictable, from postpartum to pregnancy. Even pregnancy right, my pregnancy was very unpredictable of going on bedrest, of not being able to lift anything. To now I'm supposed to be pregnant to 40 weeks. I had well, at 34 weeks, you know it is so unpredictable. So your best laid plans, goals, resolutions, when you are literally pregnant or postpartum in motherhood, you're fighting against something that's essentially never going to be stable. So just calling that for what it is, and now you're very responsible for someone else's full needs.
Speaker 2:
Yes 24-7,.
Speaker 1:
You're keeping this little thing alive. So again this is not saying hey guys, you're not going to be able to keep resolutions. That's why I'm not saying that we're going to get to what we're saying.
Speaker 2:
But it's self-care versus unrealistic expectations where you set yourself up for failure.
Speaker 1:
You already know, hey, I'm doing good to get by some days. Maybe it's not running for 30 minutes a day, maybe it's you run, you know, twice a week, right, so that's a better realistic expectation. Yeah, it's more doable Me, I'm like. I feel sometimes like I need to be more zinner and calmer, trying to ground myself, so I downloaded this pause app. And and calmer, trying to ground myself, so I downloaded this pause app and you can do one minute to 10 minutes. If I have a great day and I set my time aside, I can do that 10. But if I do that one minute, I still count that as a success.
Speaker 2:
That's a win. A win is a win.
Speaker 1:
So that is what we're talking about is like don't put yourself in this tiny little box where it's only X, y and Z.
Speaker 2:
Try not to be rigid.
Speaker 1:
Oh, and I have a hard time with that Same. So we have to give ourselves grace. So we're talking to ourselves too. But you know, we've said this so many times before we have so much coming at us that's trying to make us feel like we're not a good mom. We're not good enough. So don't put anything extra on you. That's going to be like I failed at that too.
Speaker 1:
Right, because that's just going to lead to guilt and shame and isolation and you're like the one thing I tried to do for myself, I couldn't do Right and then be cautious when we're doing these resolutions. Okay, you grew a child, you grew a human. Okay, your body's changed.
Speaker 2:
Oh yeah.
Speaker 1:
So you're going to get inundated with all these ads.
Speaker 2:
Go to the gym, bounce back, get that bounce back All of these supplements, these detox teas and drinks.
Speaker 1:
They're going to come for the mom and the postpartum body of this toxic culture where they're selling Again. Again we go back to. Let's break it down it's a business. They're selling a certain thing. We want you to be healthy, we want you to have physical and mental health strengths, but we don't want you to do that in a way that's a fad or unhealthy for you and be shamed into it. Right, Because we never change if somebody's shaming us to do something like that.
Speaker 2:
Well, and even if we do change, it's not always received as a positive thing.
Speaker 1:
Right.
Speaker 2:
You know, we have to change for ourselves. Right, I have to decide, not for someone else's approval, and I think that's a big thing too, right?
Speaker 1:
If you're like, okay, well, I'm good, but I want so-and-so to have a resolution, I want my husband to have a resolution, Right, and they don't do it for themselves.
Speaker 2:
Right, it's not going to mean as much, it's not going to mean as much.
Speaker 1:
They're not going to take ownership in it. And you know what, when it ultimately goes wrong, they blame you for it. Yep, because I never wanted to do it in the first place.
Speaker 2:
It'll come back and bite you.
Speaker 1:
And you guys don't even have to, you don't have to say this. But again, social media, the comparison thief of joy. It is going to be coming at you, of making you feel like you're behind if you're not on your 30 days of fat loss Right, that was a big big one after my first daughter was born.
Speaker 1:
And because? Then you want, because I think it's like the loss of identity that happens in motherhood, right Already, and you're like who am I, who's my body, what am I doing? So you sometimes grasp for something to say well, if I can physically get back to X, if I can fit into my genes, right, or if I can physically get back to X, if I can fit into my genes Right, or if I can get to this number on the scale.
Speaker 1:
Right, like then I'm good, then I've accomplished this Right, like I'm going to be okay, when I know I sometimes do this where I will look on the outside appearance of myself versus inside. I'd rather do the outside work versus the inside.
Speaker 2:
Right.
Speaker 1:
And that's painful sometimes.
Speaker 2:
Oh, yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 1:
So what can they do? So let's, so, let's, let's. Let's go and say, okay, what are we going to do?
Speaker 2:
So I would say, start out with realistic goals. Try to celebrate non-scale victories.
Speaker 1:
Right.
Speaker 2:
So when I say that it could be that you do get your exercise in two days a week, Right For me, which has been a year's process, is okay. I'm going to build myself up to running this distance. You know that's a non-scale victory, right? I still have 10 pounds that I haven't lost from my second daughter and she's three years old.
Speaker 2:
Yeah, but you know what? I can run further now Right Than I could before she was born Totally, so I'm a stronger runner, so that is your, and running has benefited my mental health 100%.
Speaker 1:
I was going to say we work out, yeah, for our mental health. Yep, so we don't do it for the way our genes fit. Now that's a nice compliment. I mean yeah, we don't mind that Right, but we do it because we both are better moms, friends, wives.
Speaker 2:
Everything, everything, and I want to be able to keep up with my kids. I want to be able to play tag with them in the backyard.
Speaker 1:
I see grandparents now and I'm fortunate my parents are super active and I want to be them, because then I see others that simply cannot and I'm like I don't so that's my goal.
Speaker 1:
It's not like you said, it's not like limited size X, sarah, jeans needs to fit in Right. It is a long term. I'm going to constantly work at this Right Something that means something to me. I'm setting my intentions With being flexible. Yes, that, hey, okay. Baby James was up five times last night because he's sick. Yeah, sarah didn't get to work out today.
Speaker 2:
Okay, that's okay, that's okay, I'm still on my long-term goal of where. I want to be Exactly Well, and you know, life is unpredictable.
Speaker 1:
Uh-huh.
Speaker 2:
Life has a way of lifing.
Speaker 1:
Sometimes it just like tornado lives us.
Speaker 2:
Uh-huh yeah, Hurricane, tornado. Sometimes it just like tornado lives us uh huh, yeah. Hurricane, tornado, earthquake all of the things happen at one time. Because why wouldn't it? Why not? Yeah, because that's life. So allowing yourself to be flexible, giving yourself grace and saying you know what? My kid was sick. I was up all night last night. I don't have the energy to work out, but if I can put them in the stroller and go for a walk, great.
Speaker 1:
A win is a win.
Speaker 2:
Otherwise, I'm just going to focus on taking care of myself and meeting my needs for today, which means taking a shower, brushing my teeth, brushing my hair, eating and making sure my kid is okay.
Speaker 1:
And that it's a season of life too. So when you're looking at this, what you can do when your kids are babies and toddlers is way different than what you're going to look at when your kids are in middle school. Oh, absolutely so if we're again going back to these resolutions, you're like well, I want one concept that I like stick to and check off. Okay, so then you be realistic with yourself. Is that one minute a day you can give? That is fantastic, Right? No one says that you can't build that up.
Speaker 2:
Exactly.
Speaker 1:
But you do not need anything extra that's going to make it harder on yourself.
Speaker 2:
No, don't add to your plate, do positive influences.
Speaker 1:
Sometimes it could be. You know, mental health is my priority. Okay, yes, I'm going to listen to this podcast. I'm going to listen to this podcast. I'm going to go to a toolbox tip episode. I'm going to implement one tool that whitney teaches me a week for a month, and I'm going to practice or I'm going to practice mindfulness. I'm going to pause. I'm going to be open about my mental health.
Speaker 1:
I'm going to find my huddle person we talked about this before and I'm going to share and say you know, I had, I'm struggling with postpartum anxiety, whitney, right, I've had these thoughts, right, I'm going to go to therapy. Good, whatever, you know, like you don't have to be tied to whatever anybody says, and your long-term improvement of what you want.
Speaker 2:
Exactly.
Speaker 1:
Is what we want you to do. Right, that is what we're saying. So don't set a resolution but say you know, don't point out your flaws. I love when you always say this Don't say don't point out your flaws. I love when you always say this Don't say don't make my negative stand out. Right, let's turn it to a positive.
Speaker 2:
Right, let's reframe.
Speaker 1:
I love to reframe now that you've taught me that I needed that in my life.
Speaker 2:
Reframing is really strong.
Speaker 1:
And I think you know again, just embrace the change. This is a changing versus rigid. We are flexible versus set. We are. You know we're going to bend, but we're hopefully not going to break here and I think that's something that you have to come into motherhood and know.
Speaker 2:
You're going to bend a lot. There's a lot of pressure.
Speaker 1:
So what it looks like pre-baby is not what it's going to look like, and we're not ever going back, and that's okay.
Speaker 2:
And just remember too, you're dealing, like we said early in the episode, post holidays are super hard. You are drained, okay, you have, there's a lot going on. We're overstimulated, we're exhausted mentally, emotionally, physically all of the above it is a lot you have been basically the main caregiver for the past.
Speaker 1:
I don't know since probably starts before halloween right like. But the extra right, the planning, the for the past, I don't know, since probably starts before Halloween right.
Speaker 2:
Like, but the extra right.
Speaker 1:
The planning, the cooking, the holiday activities. I mean you've had umpteen thousand school parties. You've had to see with, deal with family that you often don't. There's been boundaries Giving and buying Financial, physical, emotional investments. You have been tapped out, so you're ready if you think about it. Most people that I know in my life, us included, do not come out of the holiday seasons refreshed and ready to roll oh no, we have to recharge.
Speaker 2:
Yeah, I'm already having to think about christmas gifts because we're changing how we do christmas. So we're going to be at my parents house. So guess what? I'm amazoning toys from santa to my parents house house so that we can have Santa there when we wake up Christmas morning.
Speaker 1:
I was going to say it continuously goes ahead and shift in focus. Let's just again. Okay, you have been through a lot with the holidays, so don't what we're saying to you. You've already probably have lack of self-care, so I think you come into it. You've had comparison and guilt on you. You probably felt lonely and isolated let's be real Because the holidays are hard for people, so you've had all this extra on you and then society goes. Whitney set your resolutions. You better stick to them.
Speaker 2:
That's unrealistic Because you ate so terrible these past few months.
Speaker 1:
Well, guess what Y'all?
Speaker 2:
threw every bump cake at us that there was none of mankind. It all started when you let the halloween oreos and pumpkin reeses in the store that you put in the stores in september.
Speaker 1:
Well, I mean, I do partake. I'm not gonna we all do. But you know, that's the thing. That's why I've anybody grasping concept for today. It's just hear what we say. You're not set up against something to have you win right, this is again a marketing business that is creating.
Speaker 2:
I was about to say this is all strategy with businesses.
Speaker 1:
And then here you come, they're throwing out to the holidays. Let's be festive, let's eat. You give everything, you decorate the best. We're throwing in comparison and guilt to make you buy more your kids are off schedule. Okay, hello, that's over. No one gives you a break, right? And then you're resuming your daily demands. You're empty a little bit from your tank and then now it's set these goals, whitney, be better, lose that weight, be better. You better be more mindful. Okay, let's take that pressure off.
Speaker 2:
Let's just be for a second.
Speaker 1:
Let's refill and let's look long-term what we want. And again, why are we letting society dictate who we are as moms, our goals and our resolutions? Well, who we?
Speaker 2:
are, as moms, our goals and our resolutions? Well, because social media just pours it on like an avalanche, totally.
Speaker 1:
I think again.
Speaker 2:
We don't feel like we can get away from it.
Speaker 1:
We don't and we have to start our self-identity right. So much of us, which we grew up into, this and society is telling us that our self-identity is tied to what we do for our families. You know, like our birthday episode, it's tied to who we are, as what we give and what we create. When we have to acknowledge that is not the truth, right, what is your self-identity? What is Whitney? What is Mixer Mom Whitney?
Speaker 2:
what it makes her mom. And however you set a resolution, however you do the holidays, whatever you did for your kids for the holidays, realize number one, that's enough, Totally. It is enough, and it's not a character flaw if yours doesn't look like somebody else's.
Speaker 1:
And it's not going to. And that's part of the thing is, we've shared before in different episodes that I had to realize with the monogrammed've shared before in different episodes that I had to realize with the monogram t-shirt, valentine's thing that I'm still jerking about five years later I was about to say that still hits you. But I now can walk out and go. Good for her.
Speaker 2:
Right.
Speaker 1:
But I couldn't for a while, Right? So if you are like Sarah five years ago where it's still like well, should I have done better, Could I have done more?
Speaker 2:
Dig a little deeper Right. And also, here's my kind of flip on new year's resolutions that I kind of started thinking about a few years ago. Instead of feeling like I have to exercise more to lose weight or that I need to take this out of my life to be a better person or to do whatever, to be a better person or to do whatever, try to add positives in your life. So you're adding exercise in for your physical and mental health.
Speaker 2:
Not to lose weight, because lose is a negative word we are taking away Exactly Whether you're adding in music that really builds you up, whether you're listening to a podcast that builds you up, whether that means that you're adding in a friend to get together every couple of months. Find things to add into your life that pour into you, that actually give something to your life as opposed to well, I have to lose weight. Now I have to take this food.
Speaker 1:
It's like a punishment right.
Speaker 2:
Exactly. Why are we starting the new year with a punishment? Oh See, we need to add positive. We're doing therapy here, right?
Speaker 1:
We're serving the people with our therapy here.
Speaker 2:
Right, I'm saying, here she comes, that's right, she comes out with this therapy. Don't co-pay this time. She gives you a free therapy.
Speaker 1:
That's right.
Speaker 2:
Happy new year, my friends.
Speaker 1:
So true. I love that though. So when you're looking at this, I want you to just think of Whitney. Hear what she just said. If you need to replay this episode, turn it back on. Add something to your life this year.
Speaker 2:
Play it again in June, when life gets hard again.
Speaker 1:
You're going to need to hear it.
Speaker 2:
You know what I mean.
Speaker 1:
We'll say it again in June. That's right. We'll do a mid-year resolution re-talk. We should. I think we should I like it. Because we know statistically we're going to need it.
Speaker 2:
Right.
Speaker 1:
But we're going to add this year, so this is what we're telling you. Don't buy in to the peer pressure, the social media pressure. Look and say what do I want to add? What would make Sarah's life better, what would make Whitney's life better, or what is something that I am not A book that's encouraging? Oh, my gosh. A small just. I'm going to talk to one of my friends, you know, once a month, right?
Speaker 2:
Make it realistic Totally.
Speaker 1:
If we talk more, that's fantastic, but let's be real.
Speaker 2:
Let's do one positive Uh-huh.
Speaker 1:
That's great. One thing let's be flexible versus rigid, and let's realize we're only going to be accountable to ourselves, Right? Not what society tells us we should be Correct. Okay, guys, we are going to be with you this year. We have so many awesome episodes planned. What we would love for you to do is to you know, share us to talk about this with your friends, write us a review, follow us on Instagram. You don't have to be brand new postpartum to follow us.
Speaker 1:
No, share this with anybody in your life that is trying. Currently is pregnant, postpartum, any stage of motherhood, right, right, or, if you need to. We're going to touch on a lot of great topics this year, but if you're like, they just need to hear that Right Then send it that is where we're here, but always, if you've got some hey Whitney, questions, we're always send them in.
Speaker 1:
We're ready for that. Or if there's a topic that you want to talk about you want to come on and talk about, shoot us a DM. Right, we can do this. We got this All right. Guys, we're here with you. We're going to conquer this year together and we are so thankful for you. So happy new year from us and we look forward to tackling the year with you. Maternal mental health is as important as physical health. The Preview Alliance podcast was created for and by moms dealing with postpartum depression and all its variables, like anxiety, anger and even apathy. Hosted by CEO founder Sarah Parkhurst and licensed clinical social worker Whitney Gay, each episode focused on specific issues relevant to pregnancy and postpartum. Join us and hear how other moms have overcome mental health challenges, as well as access, tips and suggestions on dealing with your own challenges as moms. You can also browse our podcast library and listen to previous episodes at any time. Please know you're not alone on this journey. We're here to help.
